Happy Jack Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I have literally no idea what most of these mean, what sort of songs they are, what sort of bass-playing they require ... indeed, whether or not they actually need any bass. I suspect that many of the people using them have wildly different definitions from each other anyway. Am I missing something? Should I invest hours/days/weeks going down the wastepipe rabbit-hole of trying to understand all these things, or is it safe to carry on ignoring them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 8 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: I have literally no idea what most of these mean... Yeah, but you're old, man, innit... ... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) I'd go to Spotify or YouTube and find a playlist in that style and give it a listen. Incidentally, why do you want to know...you hardly sound enthused! I listen to quite a lot of music that could be defined as dream pop and shoegaze, but describing music is a lot tougher than just listening to it and deciding yourself tbh. Edited August 29 by ahpook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I'd ignore them. You'd only end up having to change your user name, and swapping Spiderman for Venom. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 Just now, ahpook said: Incidentally, why do you want to know...you hardly sound enthused! I'm always on the lookout for interesting side-projects so I check JMB / Gumtree / FB every day in case something crops up. Looking at a singe page of JMB this afternoon offered me ALL of those tags above in the space of about 30/40 listings and I realised that the whole lot was simply washing over me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 1 minute ago, Happy Jack said: I'm always on the lookout for interesting side-projects so I check JMB / Gumtree / FB every day in case something crops up. Looking at a singe page of JMB this afternoon offered me ALL of those tags above in the space of about 30/40 listings and I realised that the whole lot was simply washing over me. Fair doos. Listen to some yourself, you can't describe taste IMHO. Edited August 29 by ahpook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Those genres all mean something to me as I've invested a lot of time and effort in more obscure music - I'm someone who considers if I'm listening to brutal death metal or slam death metal for instance Whilst there is certainly similarities between some of the genres you've named, there is also nuanced differences Doom, stoner and sludge for instance will have elements of their sound that crosses over - in these cases they probably all love Black Sabbath - but there will be differences between a doom band and a sludge band and stoner one will be different still dreampop and shoegaze are very close bedfellows and you wouldn't be wrong to say the same for mid-west emo and indie, however you can make a distinction between them if you want You don't need to sub-divide genres at all if you don't want to, but then some folk will have vigerous debates about for example, what makes a band post-hardcore rather than emo The purpose, as I see it of these categorisations and sub-genres is to aid communication when describing to others what a band sounds like, so I have an idea of what I'm going to hear and how to find similar sounding acts if I like it However, there's no need to make the distinctions if you don't want or need to. Apologies for what is probably a very autistic answer 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMV001 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I remember the term Shoegaze first being used back in the early 1990s. It was originally coined as a term of derision, by Sounds Magazine journalist (who later became head of Food Records, home to Blur, Jesus Jones etc) Andy Ross. Having been shackled with the term myself for a long period, back in the days when I was musically active, I derive great amusement from the fact that it is now a genuinely respected and admired musical genre. Its frequently used a reference point in musicians wanted ads and you can wander into any record shop, anywhere in the world and find it in use in the racks as a genre definition too. Not bad for a term of abuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 31 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: I have literally no idea what most of these mean, what sort of songs they are, what sort of bass-playing they require ... indeed, whether or not they actually need any bass. I suspect that many of the people using them have wildly different definitions from each other anyway. Am I missing something? Should I invest hours/days/weeks going down the wastepipe rabbit-hole of trying to understand all these things, or is it safe to carry on ignoring them? Ok boomer 😉 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I thought at first it must be a new form of music where all of the terms were being used. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 The only one I know is Stoner 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 3 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: I thought at first it must be a new form of music where all of the terms were being used. I heard you like niches, so I put a niche in your niche so you can niche whilst you're niching 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I'm sure this clears up some of the confusion 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 55 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: I have literally no idea what most of these mean, what sort of songs they are, what sort of bass-playing they require ... indeed, whether or not they actually need any bass. I suspect that many of the people using them have wildly different definitions from each other anyway. Am I missing something? Should I invest hours/days/weeks going down the wastepipe rabbit-hole of trying to understand all these things, or is it safe to carry on ignoring them? It’s the Daily Bassgraph 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I have no idea what any of those terms / genres mean...... ... Now, I'm off to research Gansta-Folk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Wow! Looking at this heading was giving me a headache . I thought for a moment or two , that it was a new musical genre . Having said that , you could ask yourself if you are willing to give a listen to a band or two of the different genres you have listed. Happy Jack is probably something you won't be after attempting to do so. 🙂 Tbh , the chances of you playing the stuff you've mentioned are ..nil imho. Anyway I thought it is only fair to point you into the right direction of some bands to listen too just for the fun of it ,plus you can say you know who some of these bands represent . Stoner ...monster magnet . Doom...Obituary Emo...my chemical romance Harcore ...DRI / Gang Green / sick of it all / stormtroopers of death ( not too sure if all that is correct as nobody really knows) The others I just haven't a clue . I'm sure you'll be pointed in the right direction . Fwiw in all seriousness , have you thought of doing a thrash stray cats tribute ? Plug distortion in your double bass and off you go 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said: Fwiw in all seriousness , have you thought of doing a thrash stray cats tribute ? Plug distortion in your double bass and off you go 😀 Aha! An excuse to re-post one of my all-time fave YouTubes ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 They're all different sub genres of rock music. Doom started because of Sabbath. See 'Master Of Reality'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 29 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: Aha! An excuse to re-post one of my all-time fave YouTubes ... That's good ! 👍 That bass tone he has is very similar to a lot of thrash , and indeed hardcore . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 They all have one thing in common. . . . they all sound good on a Precision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) Lush, Ride, Boo Radleys were considered shoegaze amongst others Edited August 29 by timmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Not really a fan. I'm more into Hardcore Stoner Sludge Midwest Shoegaze Alt-Rock Dreampop Post-Punk Doom New-Wave Emo Indie (early stuff only) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 8 minutes ago, toneknob said: Not really a fan. I'm more into Hardcore Stoner Sludge Midwest Shoegaze Alt-Rock Dreampop Post-Punk Doom New-Wave Emo Indie (early stuff only) Splitter !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, chris_b said: They all have one thing in common. . . . they all sound good on a Precision. Or a Jazz, or a Ric. Or anything you want basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homatron Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Spotify recently pigeonholed me as being into "Crank-Wave"... whatever that is. Personally, I prefer Post-(Shoegaze-Dreampop-Hardcore-Post-Punk-Sludge-Stoner-Doom-New-Wave Midwest Emo Indie Alt-Rock), as it is a bit more earthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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