mathewsanchez Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 The description is long but an interesting read for any jaco fan. [url="http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6336208"]http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6336208[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Shame there's not a Buy It Now price... Incidentally, a guy once played my Bass who used to play with Paul Carrack, do you think it's worth auctioning ? Edited May 25, 2009 by yorks5stringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I once borrowed a bass for a summer from a guy whose other (main) bass was played by Jimi Hendrix at a jam. He'd defretted it, it was a 70s Fender and it kinda sucked. Ha. His Hendrixed Jazz is sweet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdragon Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I'm sure i saw that Bass and cab in a Noel Redding pic somewhere, am i wrong.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rslaing Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I hope the buyer for this got some certification for the claims in the auction blurb. The final selling price of £6000 for a bass with non certified history, and not even owned by the man they are using in the marketing to get the price up (plus some seriously questionable modifications which ordinarily would slash the potential value) is a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 [quote name='rslaing' post='497749' date='May 26 2009, 07:35 AM']I hope the buyer for this got some certification for the claims in the auction blurb. The final selling price of £6000 for a bass with non certified history, and not even owned by the man they are using in the marketing to get the price up (plus some seriously questionable modifications which ordinarily would slash the potential value) is a lot of money.[/quote] I've seen pre-CBS jazzes go for a lot more than that, albeit in better shape than this one. What price do you think would be reasonable for a 1960 jazz in that condition (without the Jaco link)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rslaing Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 [quote name='dlloyd' post='497868' date='May 26 2009, 11:27 AM']I've seen pre-CBS jazzes go for a lot more than that, albeit in better shape than this one. What price do you think would be reasonable for a 1960 jazz in that condition (without the Jaco link)?[/quote] The price of anything is only what the buyer is prepared to pay, as with anything I suppose. Logic flies out of the window though when the emotionally charged buyer with a few quid sees something like this. The prices paid for some of these basses is crazy, a lot of people think they are making an investment, when really, a lot of them just get carried away. There are some infinitely better sounding, better made, more reliable, and more playable instruments made nowadays at a much better price. No matter who was supposed to have played them/been in the same room as them for 5 seconds once/was sold in a shop where the owner's granma had a holiday near the Fender factory once (etc etc blah blah) Just my opinion of course, and I wouldn't dare try to argue with anyone about Fenders - because once again, I am probably in the minority. And we all know what that means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 You're right, of course. There's no rational reason to go for a pre-CBS Fender at that kind of price as a playing instrument... but I'll happily admit I'm irrational and would love to have one. Just 'because'. Although I might be tempted by this: [url="http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/product_details.php?c=1&prod_id=450&cat=112&scat=217&x=0&y=265"]http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/product_de...p;x=0&y=265[/url] which probably plays worse than any 60s Fender. I believe the 'Jaco' bass is mentioned in Milkowski's book... I might be wrong. I can't imagine it would be difficult to get confirmation of its identity from Kevin Kaufman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rslaing Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 [quote name='dlloyd' post='497891' date='May 26 2009, 11:59 AM']You're right, of course. There's no rational reason to go for a pre-CBS Fender at that kind of price as a playing instrument... but I'll happily admit I'm irrational and would love to have one. Just 'because'. Although I might be tempted by this: [url="http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/product_details.php?c=1&prod_id=450&cat=112&scat=217&x=0&y=265"]http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/product_de...p;x=0&y=265[/url] which probably plays worse than any 60s Fender. I believe the 'Jaco' bass is mentioned in Milkowski's book... I might be wrong. I can't imagine it would be difficult to get confirmation of its identity from Kevin Kaufman.[/quote] Yes, it is mentioned several times. I think the book is a great read, although there are many people who dispute some of the "facts" - including Jaco's family and his notorious last wife. I don't know if you saw the article at the link below in the Bass Player, but it makes for good reading about Jaco's Bass of Doom. Wooten, Steve and Victor Bailey and Will Lee had a go, passed comment and there are a few interesting sentences about it. [url="http://www.bassplayer.com/article/jacos-1962-fender/mar-08/34267"]Jaco’s 1962 Fender Jazz Bass “Bass of Doom” Found![/url] If he was alive today, I feel pretty sure he might be playing something different though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huge Hands Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 [quote name='dlloyd' post='497891' date='May 26 2009, 11:59 AM']Although I might be tempted by this: [url="http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/product_details.php?c=1&prod_id=450&cat=112&scat=217&x=0&y=265"]http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/product_de...p;x=0&y=265[/url][/quote] I note the site you got this from also lists the Jaco bass, has a more simplistic description, and mentions accompanying paperwork from Kevin Kaufmann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 [quote name='rslaing' post='497904' date='May 26 2009, 12:12 PM']Yes, it is mentioned several times. I think the book is a great read, although there are many people who dispute some of the "facts" - including Jaco's family and his notorious last wife.[/quote] I enjoyed the book as well. The main issue with the book appears to be that it concentrates on a period (when Milkowski was acquainted with Jaco) in which Jaco's bipolar episodes were more extreme and that it doesn't pull any punches about his behaviour. Ingrid lists some inaccuracies on her web page and they're more a matter of emphasis than anything else. It must have been painful for the family to read the book, but I think it would have been a disservice to him to gloss over his manic episodes that caused the behavioural issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 [quote name='Huge Hands' post='497905' date='May 26 2009, 12:12 PM']I note the site you got this from also lists the Jaco bass, has a more simplistic description, and mentions accompanying paperwork from Kevin Kaufmann.[/quote] So it does! [url="http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/product.php?c=1&cat=124&scat=234&x=0&y=617"]http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/product.ph...p;x=0&y=617[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 [quote name='beerdragon' post='497718' date='May 26 2009, 01:11 AM']I'm sure i saw that Bass and cab in a Noel Redding pic somewhere, am i wrong.?[/quote] The pic I posted was taken by my Dad, when Fred was selling his amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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