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neepheid

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On 14/09/2024 at 12:47, neepheid said:

Well, that's the knobs sorted.  As Baga Chipz would say, "MUCH BETTAH!"

 

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Could you post a link to the set you ordered please?  I've got a Z7 in Antique White arriving today so it looks like I'll be ordering a set of new knobs based on everyone's feedback.

That "burgundy" finish looks really nice.  It's not really burgundy though, is it? :)
 

 

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That’s certainly a looker. The new headstock design is a massive improvement over the old Sires- I wonder if it’ll be introduced on their other basses. I reckon their sales will increase if they do, that old headstock design is proper fugly! Congrats

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1 hour ago, wjoyce said:

Could you post a link to the set you ordered please?  I've got a Z7 in Antique White arriving today so it looks like I'll be ordering a set of new knobs based on everyone's feedback.

That "burgundy" finish looks really nice.  It's not really burgundy though, is it? :)
 

 

 

First of all, I would say make up your own mind about it before doing anything - everything you've read about the knobs here is personal opinion.  They might not bother you, and there would be nothing wrong with that.

 

But to answer your question:

 

https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/product/east-knob/

 

They only have chrome in stock and double unfortunately, they only have 1 stack knob left in stock.  Sorry if that was me taking the second and third last ones.  I guess you could ask when they'll have more.  Other knobs are available - most of them are a standard size.  Good luck!

 

I think "burgundy mist" would ordinarily be the full colour name, but after they got their knuckles rapped for the initial headstock design they're probably feared of being sued by Fender or whoever used that term first.  Or something got lost in translation, I dunno.  But yes, I wouldn't drink burgundy that colour, it's gone off, mate! ;)

 

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Well, I still haven't had a chance to fully play it (thanks rotator cuff🙄) but I'm thoroughly impressed with it.  Build quality is amazing and it sounds great although, yes, the knobs are an issue.  Initially I thought the shafts on the blend and treble pots were bent, but it's just the crappy knobs that won't seat flat on the shafts - reminds me of a playground witch's hat as I turn them.  They're aluminium, but have a plastic bush inside, and I think that's the issue.  Anyway, easily sorted and for the price of the bass it's no great hardship to spend a few more quid, and it's only aesthetic - they function perfectly well. 

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I have made a correction to my initial statement, specifically regarding the bass control on the preamp.  Having been assured by another poster that it should provide massive gobs of bass when called upon I opened my Z7 up again to take another look.  Turns out that when I went in there the first time, I might have snagged the wires to the bass pot a little.  They are not soldered on, they use connector blocks which are pushed onto the terminals of the pots.  I did notice that connector to the bass pot was at a bit of a jaunty angle.  So I pushed it all the way on, then tested it et voilà - working bass control.  Phew, I really couldn't be arsed with returning it, especially since everything else is pretty damn great.  Now whether I caused this issue when I was doing the photos of the guts, or if it had been that way the whole time, I couldn't say, eh, it's sorted now.

 

So, to confirm, the bass control does a lot.  I used it last night to good effect - was playing on a small stage which despite not being very high was being a bit boomy.  Simply dialled back the bass on the preamp a little - problem solved!

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On 19/09/2024 at 07:36, wjoyce said:

Could you post a link to the set you ordered please?  I've got a Z7 in Antique White arriving today so it looks like I'll be ordering a set of new knobs based on everyone's feedback.

 

 

 

 

I quite like the knobs, myself :D

The feel of the potentiometers could be better, and a couple of the knobs needed tightening, but the knobs themselves are fine I think. I like that they're not the same as in every other bass too.

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On 22/09/2024 at 11:40, neepheid said:

I have made a correction to my initial statement, specifically regarding the bass control on the preamp.  Having been assured by another poster that it should provide massive gobs of bass when called upon I opened my Z7 up again to take another look.  Turns out that when I went in there the first time, I might have snagged the wires to the bass pot a little.  They are not soldered on, they use connector blocks which are pushed onto the terminals of the pots.  I did notice that connector to the bass pot was at a bit of a jaunty angle.  So I pushed it all the way on, then tested it et voilà - working bass control.  Phew, I really couldn't be arsed with returning it, especially since everything else is pretty damn great.  Now whether I caused this issue when I was doing the photos of the guts, or if it had been that way the whole time, I couldn't say, eh, it's sorted now.

 

So, to confirm, the bass control does a lot.  I used it last night to good effect - was playing on a small stage which despite not being very high was being a bit boomy.  Simply dialled back the bass on the preamp a little - problem solved!

 

That's more like it. If anything I find the bass control VERY powerful. Turning up a tiny bit boosts a lot!

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On 19/09/2024 at 10:06, neepheid said:

I think "burgundy mist" would ordinarily be the full colour name, but after they got their knuckles rapped for the initial headstock design they're probably feared of being sued by Fender or whoever used that term first.  Or something got lost in translation, I dunno.  But yes, I wouldn't drink burgundy that colour, it's gone off, mate! ;)

 


The same paint was "Burgundy Mist" when applied to an Oldsmobile, "Royal Amethyst" on a Pontiac, or "Lido Lavender" on a Buick 😆
It was 1959... I'm pretty sure everything was black and white until shortly before then, so they were only just getting the hang of these new-fangled "colours"

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