Help me to find a new amp

[lemmywinks]

12 minutes ago, Dan Dare said:

 

As a long time PJB owner/user, I think it better to add more cabs for more volume if you want clean sound. Having said that, if you're running a C8, that's pretty capable on its own in a lot of situations. It should deal with most pub/club gigs, unless the band is stupidly loud. It is, however, quite heavy and the OP wants lightness, so I'd suggest two PJB 4x5 cabs will be a lot easier to transport.

 

I have two C4s and three 4Bs and use two or more depending on how loud I need to be. Being quite inefficient, they do take a bit of driving, although the manufacturers rating of 400w per cab is a bit optimistic, imho. I'd say 300 is nearer the mark. I have a couple of 2 ohm capable heads, so can use up to three without adding additional amplification. Technically, I suppose I could use four, but I like to err on the safe side. I've not needed to use all five together so far.

 

The thing I like most about them, apart from the clean sound, is that they are very immediate. When I play through more conventional cabs, they feel a bit slow/plodding by comparison. As the OP also wants to use them for 7 string jazz guitar, I reckon they will do that job very well. I play a bit of jazz guitar at home through one of mine and it sounds good.

 

The C8 Lite I have is the neo version so 18.6kg, the C4 are 13.1kg each. Plus the C8 cabs have a trolley handle and wheels so the amount of carrying you have to do is very minimal! I also love the fast response of the PJB gear, normally I find cab/combo reviews a bit useless but you can really hear how snappy they are in the video Sam posted above.

 

The reason I don't like the idea of adding more cabs is that I'm lazy and only want to carry one, preferably pulling it behind me on wheels with my amp on the top.

[Downunderwonder]

The Rumble 100V3 is super loud for its size. I used one on a festival gig and I thought it was DI'd but turned out to be the only thing filling the room for jazz orchestras. The weight of it would suggest a toy but it's a real thing.

 

I never go without a High Pass Filter aka HPF. It stops things from going boom.

[hpc364]

Thanks for your help !

My request was a bit crazy and kind of useless.

 

Many manufacturers want to create new concepts, technology helps a lot.

Phil Jones makes great amps but as he said somewhere, it's useless to use his cabs with other heads (not PJB concept), the goal is to produce a high quality sound, a studio sound, nobody has got a studio sound on stage unless you play alone, yes it's quality, not enough power ? OK, we've got a PA system, has it got a high quality sound ? Can it clearly amplify your nice sound without changing it ?

 

You've got a wonderful sound on stage when you play alone but when the others play nobody hear you, you turn the volume up, it's a mess, you rethink your equalization, it's better, it's a bad sound for you but a good one for the audience and the people who play with you.

 

I will buy a high quality combo and so what ? What will happen if I haven't got enough power ? PA system ? Which one ?

 

I've got a Rumble 100 first version, it's heavy and loud, too heavy and loud, it makes boom boom boom boom, it's a very good amp but it's heavy.

The 15 inch speaker makes boom boom boom and the tweeter gives headache, the B string sounds like a bomb, no dynamics, it makes boom boom boom boom.

 

Same price as the Micromark 801, I will probably buy a head and a cab (both from the same brand).

 

They all read the specs to know if the B string will sound good, what we want to hear is not the fundamental (first harmonic) alone but a nice tone, yes the 15 inch Rumble speaker can do it but it makes boom boom boom boom and gives headache with its tweeter.

 

[Downunderwonder]

New Rumble 100 is a world away from the old ones. Take away the 'rumble' and add loudness and lightness.

[Dan Dare]

On 21/09/2024 at 11:10, hpc364 said:

Thanks for your help !

My request was a bit crazy and kind of useless.

 

Many manufacturers want to create new concepts, technology helps a lot.

Phil Jones makes great amps but as he said somewhere, it's useless to use his cabs with other heads (not PJB concept), the goal is to produce a high quality sound, a studio sound, nobody has got a studio sound on stage unless you play alone, yes it's quality, not enough power ? OK, we've got a PA system, has it got a high quality sound ? Can it clearly amplify your nice sound without changing it ?

 

You've got a wonderful sound on stage when you play alone but when the others play nobody hear you, you turn the volume up, it's a mess, you rethink your equalization, it's better, it's a bad sound for you but a good one for the audience and the people who play with you.

 

I will buy a high quality combo and so what ? What will happen if I haven't got enough power ? PA system ? Which one ?

 

I've got a Rumble 100 first version, it's heavy and loud, too heavy and loud, it makes boom boom boom boom, it's a very good amp but it's heavy.

The 15 inch speaker makes boom boom boom and the tweeter gives headache, the B string sounds like a bomb, no dynamics, it makes boom boom boom boom.

 

Same price as the Micromark 801, I will probably buy a head and a cab (both from the same brand).

 

They all read the specs to know if the B string will sound good, what we want to hear is not the fundamental (first harmonic) alone but a nice tone, yes the 15 inch Rumble speaker can do it but it makes boom boom boom boom and gives headache with its tweeter.

 

I'd suggest Mr Jones is barking his wares when he says it's "useless to use his cabs with other heads". It ain't. I have both Aquilar and Carvin heads and my PJB cabs work very well with either. I actually don't like PJB heads that much. I find them a little sterile. My Aquilar (AG700), being possessed of a touch of warmth, provides a good foil to the ultra clean cabs. 

 

Don't be taken in by the marketingspeak. Don't buy on recommendation, either. Try gear out before you buy.

[ezbass]

I have a Phil Jones Flightcase that I use with a PB300 powered cab for gigs. I play mainly bass guitar, but I also play an EUB at home and it suits both well (the EUB needs some eq changes from my usual flat settings, but no hardship). One of PJ’s more famous users is Kyle Eastwood and he plays both EB and DB through his PJ rig.