Burns-bass Posted October 5, 2024 Posted October 5, 2024 Looking for a battery powered FRFR speaker. The Mackie looks great but this is £100 cheaper, Does anyone have an opinion on either/both? https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-B1C-Battery-Powered-Portable-PA-System/682H?origin=product-ads&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_kjLRxu0CydeNxbiI3o_-j5ZQIm&gclid=CjwKCAjwx4O4BhAnEiwA42SbVEaz9H3GDy-GzCBJiXEzgtQpl_hYixRC0I_OuorNf24r4f4M4jOkgRoCtFEQAvD_BwE Quote
TheRev Posted October 5, 2024 Posted October 5, 2024 Looks like Behringer's answer to the Bose S1? The Bose is an amazing bit of kit, but it's £700, so it's unlikely that the Behringer will be anywhere close, performance wise. Still, at £200, its worth having a go. Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 6, 2024 Author Posted October 6, 2024 7 hours ago, TheRev said: Looks like Behringer's answer to the Bose S1? The Bose is an amazing bit of kit, but it's £700, so it's unlikely that the Behringer will be anywhere close, performance wise. Still, at £200, it’s worth having a go. Yep, that’s the one! I did a gig through the Mackie version and was great. I wondered if this would be ok. The Bose is lovely but not sure I can justify it. Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 6, 2024 Author Posted October 6, 2024 Actually, the Bose is less (and I can get the VAT off) which closes things up. If you’ve got a second, do you know if the only difference between this one and the Pro plus is wireless instrument connectivity? https://www.thomann.co.uk/bose_s1_pro.htm (seems that way to me!) Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 6, 2024 Author Posted October 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Burns-bass said: Actually, the Bose is less (and I can get the VAT off) which closes things up. If you’ve got a second, do you know if the only difference between this one and the Pro plus is wireless instrument connectivity? https://www.thomann.co.uk/bose_s1_pro.htm (seems that way to me!) Ignore me… “The Bose S1 Pro+ is better than the Bose S1 Pro System. These speakers are a similar size and offer a similar design. However, the Pro+ has monochrome screens that offer excellent feedback as you adjust various instruments and other settings. It gets louder, too, and it supports Bluetooth version 5.0. Plus, its battery life lasts a bit longer.” Quote
TheRev Posted October 6, 2024 Posted October 6, 2024 It was the S1 pro system rather than the S1 Pro + that I've used. Two were provided for a little open mic stage at a festival I was doing sound at - the volume they put out was unbelievable for the size. Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 6, 2024 Author Posted October 6, 2024 48 minutes ago, TheRev said: It was the S1 pro system rather than the S1 Pro + that I've used. Two were provided for a little open mic stage at a festival I was doing sound at - the volume they put out was unbelievable for the size. Yeah that’s good to know. Not sure it’s worth the extra fee quid for the + then. Quote
Grahambythesea Posted October 8, 2024 Posted October 8, 2024 That looks really interesting and I’d like to know how it performs for bass as it only has a 6.5 ins speaker + a tweeter. The other thing I’m unclear about is the battery, lithium ion, but is it a rechargeable or do you replace it/them when it’s expired after the 8 hours? Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 8, 2024 Author Posted October 8, 2024 7 hours ago, Grahambythesea said: That looks really interesting and I’d like to know how it performs for bass as it only has a 6.5 ins speaker + a tweeter. The other thing I’m unclear about is the battery, lithium ion, but is it a rechargeable or do you replace it/them when it’s expired after the 8 hours? The battery is removable and replaceable, but you should be able to use it for thousands of charges. You can get a sub as well, but probably not needed. Quote
Hellzero Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 Remember that Behringer's Watts are ... optimistic. It's in fact a 40 to 50 Watts... Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 9, 2024 Author Posted October 9, 2024 17 minutes ago, Hellzero said: Remember that Behringer's Watts are ... optimistic. It's in fact a 40 to 50 Watts... Yes, I get that. It's going to be the Bose as I can also do BVs through it as well. Just in the process of selling some stuff and once done, will invest and provide a full report. The amp will get used a lot as I'm gigging 5-10 times a month on DB now. Still can't decide between the older Pro and the newer Pro+. Any thoughts? Quote
Greg Edwards69 Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 I wouldn't want to use one without a judicious hpf. Thre frequency response is 60 Hz – 20 kHz (±3 dB). Without a hpf it would be easy to damage the woofer. Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 9, 2024 Author Posted October 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Greg Edwards69 said: I wouldn't want to use one without a judicious hpf. Thre frequency response is 60 Hz – 20 kHz (±3 dB). Without a hpf it would be easy to damage the woofer. Good point. I use the EBS Stanley Clarke which has a good HPF in it. I'm using a magnetic pickup too, so the risk is lower. I was going to ask if there was a good battery-powered pre-amp with an in-built HPF. Any ideas? Quote
Hellzero Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 4 hours ago, Burns-bass said: I was going to ask if there was a good battery-powered pre-amp with an in-built HPF. Any ideas? Buy this power bank and keep your excellent EBS Stanley Clarke preamp. I use it to power my simple pedalboard (Boss OC-5 + FKT Audio The Fretless) as it has two 9 Volts outputs and lasts many many many hours. https://www.thomann.co.uk/harley_benton_powerplant_powerbank.htm Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 9, 2024 Author Posted October 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Hellzero said: Buy this power bank and keep your excellent EBS Stanley Clarke preamp. I use it to power my simple pedalboard (Boss OC-5 + FKT Audio The Fretless) as it has two 9 Volts outputs and lasts many many many hours. https://www.thomann.co.uk/harley_benton_powerplant_powerbank.htm This is why I love the forum! Thanks for this, I will order one alongside the Bose. 1 Quote
Stompbox Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 Like you say a good price - Behringer are getting better as time goes on - plus there's a 3 year warranty. Quote
TheRev Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 11 hours ago, Burns-bass said: Good point. I use the EBS Stanley Clarke which has a good HPF in it. I'm using a magnetic pickup too, so the risk is lower. I was going to ask if there was a good battery-powered pre-amp with an in-built HPF. Any ideas? The F-Deck HPF or one of its clones is excellent - but the power bank is a lot cheaper. Quote
Greg Edwards69 Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 Have you seen the new Spark Edge? Looks to be a more useful proposition than the Behringer. Spark EDGE – United Kingdom - Positive Grid Although, for bass, I still think it's more for practice and acoustic jams. I doubt it will hang with a drummer. Quote
Greg Edwards69 Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 (edited) On 09/10/2024 at 09:41, Burns-bass said: Good point. I use the EBS Stanley Clarke which has a good HPF in it. I'm using a magnetic pickup too, so the risk is lower. I was going to ask if there was a good battery-powered pre-amp with an in-built HPF. Any ideas? I meant to add. I had the headrush frfr-108 for a while - apparently designed for guitar and bass. More power, a bigger woofer and a deeper frequency response than the Behringer B1C. It kept up with a full band in a rehearsal room fine but still needed an hpf to protect it - as I discovered when my drummer plugged his Roland trigger unit into it and damaged the woofer with a particularly deep bass drum sample. It was a good job the woofer was easily replaceable and not expensive! Edited October 10, 2024 by Greg Edwards69 Quote
Burns-bass Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 2 hours ago, Greg Edwards69 said: I meant to add. I had the headrush frfr-108 for a while - apparently designed for guitar and bass. More power, a bigger woofer and a deeper frequency response than the Behringer B1C. It kept up with a full band in a rehearsal room fine but still needed an hpf to protect it - as I discovered when my drummer plugged his Roland trigger unit into it and damaged the woofer with a particularly deep bass drum sample. It was a good job the woofer was easily replaceable and not expensive! Yeah, I can see that. I should say, I want this to play semi-acoustic gigs (including outdoor gigs) with a quiet drummer. For bigger gigs, I'll take the full tried and tested concert set-up. This won't be used to keep up with a loud, stick-pounding drummer or electrified guitarist. Quote
Burns-bass Posted November 6, 2024 Author Posted November 6, 2024 I have now bought one! Not had the chance to set it up but will hopefully do so this week. Quote
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