cheddatom Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 6 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: I was going to suggest sacrificing a cut-up tennis ball over the grill, but if even a 'pop'-shield is no good for 'looks', he'll just have to carry on his amateur dentistry. Vanity, eh..? I think the image of an act is very important. I'm not sure it's vanity in the context of a stage show? Either way a 58 with a big foam wind shield is not going to look "cool" to the audience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Maybe change the style of mic? Go for one on those 1950s looking ones. Still looks cool, perhaps even cooler than an SM58 (YMMV), and reduces the teeth on grill potential as it’s a different shape altogether. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 28 minutes ago, cheddatom said: I think the image of an act is very important. I'm not sure it's vanity in the context of a stage show? Either way a 58 with a big foam wind shield is not going to look "cool" to the audience Gum shields, then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 1 hour ago, cheddatom said: ........ I personally agree with him on the look of a windshield, it's very much not rock and roll! here's Axl Rose not being rock n roll at all....😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 What about swapping the mic for something he can't actually get in his mouth / reach with his teeth? Several colours are available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 (edited) I have an old Thomann / T.Bone copy of the Shure Super 55 and it's actually pretty good. Mind you I've never tried a real Super 55 but the internals are supposed to be very similar / the same as a BETA 58A. RRP is £265 these days, but Thomann have them for £205 https://www.thomann.co.uk/shure_super_55_deluxe.htm EDIT - Shure do a cheaper one that looks similar at about £155 - the SH55 too. Edited November 4 by fretmeister 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Or try a SM7b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 17 minutes ago, Bolo said: Or try a SM7b Great recording mic, not great live though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, fretmeister said: Great recording mic, not great live though. Haven't tried mine live yet. Seems to have fairly good off axis rejection. Works fine in the rehearsal room for a old school thrash metal band. What is the issue on stage? Edited November 4 by Bolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Maybe you could try aversion therapy. Smack him in the mouth with the microphone at regular intervals during rehearsal (say, five times after every song). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 I'm an anarchist; I do as I think fit, and accord this freedom to others, of course. If the bloke wants to bash his teeth on the mic', despite others trying to help, let him; it's his choice. I don't understand it, but... if that's what he wants... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 As for foam pop shields not being "rock n' roll", most punters aren't going to notice in a pub or club. The obvious point is that you don't need a pop shield the size of a football. Thin foam ones are available, believe it or not. Not much use as pop shields, but they will protect the gnashers from impact. Incidentally, old geezers aren't rock n' roll, either (I speak as an OG), no matter how hard they try to pretend they are. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 On 02/11/2024 at 12:02, cheddatom said: Our singer apparently hits his front teeth on the grille of his sm58 beta. Is there a replacement grille that looks the same, but isn't made of rigid metal? I've had a search but can't find anything. He can't be the only one with this issue!? Why is this your problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 On 02/11/2024 at 13:02, cheddatom said: ...He can't be the only one with this issue!? He's probably the only one daft enough to still have this 'problem' for so long. Most other folk learn, evolve and move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushbo Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Would a silver-grey pop filter work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodwind Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 I keep coming back to this thread in slight disbelief. What on earth does it sound like to the audience when you singer repeatedly klonks his teeth on the mic??? Nevermind him worrying about not looking rock and roll by using a wind shield what about sounding absolutely dire? A few friends, admittedly not long in the tooth, use the pop shield foam on their vocal mics and it looks good, but if your vocalist really can't do it, then I'd do the following: Replacement sm58 3rd party grille balls can be found in ebay for a couple of quid. Buy one (or a few) Buy a pack of foam windshields. Buy a tube of contact adhesive. Carefully cut the windshields so they only really cover the top part of the replacement grille (ie the section that gets a good chewing) Affix the foam Using a couple of judicious blobs of contact adhesive on the outside edge. This won't last very long, but will be easy to pull off and replace and if you make a couple can be swapped mid gig if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted November 11 Author Share Posted November 11 Thanks for all the replies! I've been away for a few days... It's not my problem at all, I just offered to find out for him while we were on the way to a gig. I'll see if he fancies a Shure Super 55 The band actually does pretty well playing all over the country in decent venues. I personally don't have vocals in my monitor so I don't know if it's audible, but I've never heard anyone complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 On 04/11/2024 at 16:36, fretmeister said: What about swapping the mic for something he can't actually get in his mouth / reach with his teeth? Several colours are available When I can find it, I'll dig out and take photos of Mr Venom's old Super 55. I had to replace the foam twice and he chipped a tooth on it more than once. Despite the fact that hasn't been used for a number of years it still looks pretty disgusting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted November 11 Author Share Posted November 11 Chipped a tooth on a Super 55? In that case I'll not suggest it! I'm just going to explain that there's no product available to make up for his terrible technique 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 How about a muzzle? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 1 hour ago, Bolo said: How about a muzzle? Or a fencing mask. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Here you go…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Get foam ones and make it a feature. For each gig use a foam that matches his shirt. Or if he decides to get a purple mohawk, get purple ones. That sort of thing. Or just use a plain black one that nobody will notice at all. The punters have no idea about differences between microphones anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 On 11/11/2024 at 12:27, cheddatom said: Chipped a tooth on a Super 55? In that case I'll not suggest it! I'm just going to explain that there's no product available to make up for his terrible technique 🤣 Stick a 2 inch thick bit of foam rubber to his upper lip so it bangs into the mic first. Then tell him it's just 'training wheels' for a couple of weeks until he gets used to being further away... but warn him that after a month you will hot glue it to his face if you have to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 On 06/11/2024 at 12:55, rushbo said: Would a silver-grey pop filter work? I used to use red ones, but I like that green! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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