Owen Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Whatever is playing bass on Deeper Underground does something weird at 1:05 and then they C+P it at 2:02, 2:20, 3:22 and 3:41. I am fully aware that I need to get out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 11 hours ago, BassAgent said: Well, very sorry for being a non-native speaker and not being fluent in flawless RP. To be fair, it’s really hard to tell that from reading your output. Your few mistakes are ones that English native speakers from some regions also make I have IELTS grade 9 and I notice things like that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 40 minutes ago, Rich said: Definitely better news than the return of the Manc knuckledraggers, that's for certain. Is it ok to like both? asking for a friend, obvs 🥴 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Polymath Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 (edited) I'm very tempted to have a look at tickets, even though I generally hate big shows with a passion. Showing my age (or perhaps lack thereof) but Travelling Without Moving was the first album I ever bought. I didn't play bass back then, and had no real interest in learning, but I remember being obsessed with the interplay between Stuart Zender and Derrick McKenzie on tracks like "Funktion". I recently stumbled across this fantastic recording, which caused me to totally reassess Jay Kay's role in the band. I'd always assumed that he was the lyricist and the charismatic man-up-front, but not particularly involved in the instrumental side of things. This loose rehearsal jam really shows him in band-leader mode, conducting what sounds like just the core group of McKenzie, Zender and Smith through a song that's already clearly fully formed in his head. Edited November 22 by Mediocre Polymath 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike f Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 23 hours ago, pst62 said: Oops I didn't know that and tbh didn't give that a thought! Please accept my sincere apologies. I was just making the observation of how Americanistaion is creeping into our language. Sky TV are the biggest culprits. “The first known written use of "oops" was in a 1921 Washington Post horse racing column”. You were saying? 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAgent Posted November 23 Author Share Posted November 23 23 hours ago, pst62 said: Jamiroquai ARE back, not is back! I'm not a fan of all this Americanisation of the English language. For the sake of Britishness, I have corrected it and will never ever make that mistake again😁 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misdee Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) I went to see Jamiroquai live in early 1993 when they were a new act. They were really, really good. It was refreshing to hear a band with those kinds of influences at that time. To my taste, it's been downhill from there for them. They just seem to be doing the same thing over and over again in a more and more stultified manner. After Travelling Without Moving it was all over as far as I'm concerned. Regarding the bass playing, Stuart Zender was (and I suspect still is) just one of those people who is a naturally gifted player. That's to take nothing away from him, but he learnt by doing it rather than studying the instrument in a more formal manner. That's probably why his playing sounds so fresh, energetic and spontaneous. For me, neither of the bass players who have followed him in that band (both superb musicians) have had anything like the same level of originality or personality in their playing. Edited November 23 by Misdee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 35 minutes ago, Misdee said: I went to see Jamiroquai live in early 1993 when they were a new act. They were really, really good. It was refreshing to hear a band with those kinds of influences at that time. To my taste, it's been downhill from there for them. They just seem to be doing the same thing over and over again in a more and more stultified manner. After Travelling Without Moving it was all over as far as I'm concerned. Regarding the bass playing, Stuart Zender was (and I suspect still is) just one of those people who is a naturally gifted player. That's to take nothing away from him, but learnt by doing it rather than studying the instrument in a more formal manner. That's probably why his playing sounds so fresh, energetic and spontaneous. For me, neither of the bass players who have followed him in that band (both superb musicians) have had anything like the same level of originality or personality in their playing. I think you’re right in terms of SZ having a feel of originality, because those since have had the feel of good session players. SZ just understood music very early in his development. His lines sound to me to be heavily influenced by Jaco, Jamerson, Bernard Edwards and a slap style akin to Marcus Miller. Shame he hasn’t had more influence in music since Jamiroquai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 2 hours ago, mike f said: “The first known written use of "oops" was in a 1921 Washington Post horse racing column”. You were saying? 😁 Buy you know fine well the point I was making don't you, Mr Clever arse. 🤓 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike f Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 1 hour ago, pst62 said: Buy you know fine well the point I was making don't you, Mr Clever arse. 🤓 Sir, I do indeed. The newer ones can be a bit clunky but the English speaking world swaps and changes more than we imagine. Have we gotten used to “gotten” (again)? Or have we simply become more accustomed? Yours respectfully, Mr C Arse PS Zender is the business! He sho’ nuff funky. Dig? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, BassAgent said: For the sake of Britishness, I have corrected it and will never ever make that mistake again😁 Just chill, given that it is arguable whether jk is jamiroquai or merely a member, and so therefore your prior use of “is” or “are” depends on your point of view. To leverage the Turing test, if you can exchange messages with someone who speaks your native language as well as you do, they have truly arrived in linguistic competency Edited November 23 by Geek99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Jamiroquai is a collective noun for the members therein, therefore, it is is. Sounds wrong and clunky, I know, but if you replace the name of the band with, herd, flock, or any other collective noun of your choosing, including band, then apply is, it suddenly sounds correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, ezbass said: Jamiroquai is a collective noun for the members therein, therefore, it is is. Sounds wrong and clunky, I know, but if you replace the name of the band with, herd, flock, or any other collective noun of your choosing, including band, then apply is, it suddenly sounds correct. View this through the lens of someone who natively speaks another language and you will realise how weird and alarmingly contextual English is. It’s a really hard language to master we have a huge advantage in learning it as children Edited November 23 by Geek99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAgent Posted November 23 Author Share Posted November 23 2 hours ago, ezbass said: Jamiroquai is a collective noun for the members therein, therefore, it is is. Sounds wrong and clunky, I know, but if you replace the name of the band with, herd, flock, or any other collective noun of your choosing, including band, then apply is, it suddenly sounds correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) That didn’t show @BassAgent i speak German, French and small bits of other languages such as Czech, Irish and italian It’s a brave thing to venture your language skills outside your comfort zone, I’ve had to do that myself and I know how it feels I worked with this German lady, married to an Englishman with English speaking kids, working as a translator and she regularly made major mistakes it really isn’t easy and as speakers of a weltsprach, we lose sight of it Edited November 23 by Geek99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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