New Amp From GR Bass .... Groove.

[spyder]

Just found this on YouTube.

I'm a big GR fan so can't wait to see the reviews when they appear.

 

https://youtu.be/iTPsV2BfsoE?si=VNiLZa2YyZL6zEq4

Edited 22 hours ago by spyder

[Obrienp]

Don’t like the promotional video much. A bit like one of those car ads but a quick squint at the specs on the website are much more encouraging. A few things I would have liked to have seen: independent drive control, compressor, HPF, tuner, character control, ability to go down to 2 ohms. One day, someone will do it. Mesa are almost there with the Subway 800+. My Blackstar U700 doesn’t have the HPF.

[Chienmortbb]

Most bass amps, including I suspect the Blackstar will have a fixed. Do you need a variable one? 

[Obrienp]

1 hour ago, Chienmortbb said:

Most bass amps, including I suspect the Blackstar will have a fixed. Do you need a variable one? 

Really but doesn’t it also beg the question at what frequency that is set to and what your cabinets can cope/are optimised for? For example the LFSys Monza can handle down to 40 Hz and the BF cabinets go down to 30 Hz. It will be obvious I’m no expert but presumably sending those cabs anything lower at high volume is likely to lead to them struggling.
 

The Mesa Subway + has a variable HPF control. There must be a reason for that. I would also have thought that manufacturers would mention an HPF in their specs. They seem to boast about every other feature, however inconsequential.

 

I have been convinced by the HPF/LPF thread that these are worth while and I have noticed a positive effect in my own experiments (I am using a pedal, which is clunky IMO), which is different to that produced by the amps EQ controls. Other people’s mileage may be different. 

[Jack]

3 hours ago, Obrienp said:

Really but doesn’t it also beg the question at what frequency that is set to and what your cabinets can cope/are optimised for? For example the LFSys Monza can handle down to 40 Hz and the BF cabinets go down to 30 Hz. It will be obvious I’m no expert but presumably sending those cabs anything lower at high volume is likely to lead to them struggling.
 

The Mesa Subway + has a variable HPF control. There must be a reason for that. I would also have thought that manufacturers would mention an HPF in their specs. They seem to boast about every other feature, however inconsequential.

 

I have been convinced by the HPF/LPF thread that these are worth while and I have noticed a positive effect in my own experiments (I am using a pedal, which is clunky IMO), which is different to that produced by the amps EQ controls. Other people’s mileage may be different. 

Basschat is not representative of bassists. I have a feeling that if you marketed a hpf most people would think it silly that you'd take the bass out of a bass. It's a feature that you see in some more expensive amps, which I suspect are bought either by more serious players, or people who nerd out on bass forums and play 20-person-audience gigs with a Fodera. 🫣

[Obrienp]

17 minutes ago, Jack said:

Basschat is not representative of bassists. I have a feeling that if you marketed a hpf most people would think it silly that you'd take the bass out of a bass. It's a feature that you see in some more expensive amps, which I suspect are bought either by more serious players, or people who nerd out on bass forums and play 20-person-audience gigs with a Fodera. 🫣

I feel put in my place. You are right. I should use more of my time practicing and less time worrying about features on my gear. That said, for the kind of money the GR will sell for, I would have expected a bit more: it’s a crowded market but I don’t know why it bothers me, I will never be paying that amount for an amp. Everything I have is well secondhand and pretty low budget, with one exception.

 

As for the 20 person audience, the way gigs are locally, we will take anything that is going, even if turns out to be a paid rehearsal. I think classical musicians would consider the price of a Fodera pretty low rent but everything is relative and I get the point you are making.

[Jack]

28 minutes ago, Obrienp said:

I feel put in my place. You are right. I should use more of my time practicing and less time worrying about features on my gear. That said, for the kind of money the GR will sell for, I would have expected a bit more: it’s a crowded market but I don’t know why it bothers me, I will never be paying that amount for an amp. Everything I have is well secondhand and pretty low budget, with one exception.

 

As for the 20 person audience, the way gigs are locally, we will take anything that is going, even if turns out to be a paid rehearsal. I think classical musicians would consider the price of a Fodera pretty low rent but everything is relative and I get the point you are making.

Please, sorry, don't take my post too seriously. I'm not in any position to put anybody else in their place.

 

I do think I might have some sort of point in that if a mass-market amplifier actively marketed the fact that it cuts bass off then it might put some people off. However, I don't have the data to prove it other than the smaller manufacturers who make boutique stuff seem to often include this feature and the more PMT/Guitar Guitar/high street stuff doesn't.

 

Anyway, I'm off to play in front of 20 people, big crowd tonight.

[Obrienp]

1 hour ago, Jack said:

Please, sorry, don't take my post too seriously. I'm not in any position to put anybody else in their place.

 

I do think I might have some sort of point in that if a mass-market amplifier actively marketed the fact that it cuts bass off then it might put some people off. However, I don't have the data to prove it other than the smaller manufacturers who make boutique stuff seem to often include this feature and the more PMT/Guitar Guitar/high street stuff doesn't.

 

Anyway, I'm off to play in front of 20 people, big crowd tonight.

No worries. It did make me realise I’m commenting on something I’m never going to get my hands on, at least until it falls down to the bottom feeder level of the used market. 

 

Don’t forget to take the Fodera to the gig 😀. Enjoy!