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[quote name='Rayman' post='503966' date='Jun 2 2009, 04:51 PM']I agree wholeheartedly.[/quote]

I don't think that anybody would care. I'm all for raising a Luthier's profile - through whatever means.

If Jon gets extra sales because some geezer from the Kaiser Chiefs then excellent. Job done. He certainly shouldn't lose any sales. It's a good marketing strategy.

I'm sure Rob at Status has done well through the Mark King association. Some would argue that Mark has had his day... but there are all those Status fans who will buy whatever Mark is playing... all power to Rob I say - extra sales. It doesn't mean that any of the guys buying such instruments will sound like Mark but hey. Everybody is happy. The customer has what they want and Rob sells instruments.

Are there any new bass heroes that are known to everybody that have the power to shift basses? I don't know. The last guy to spring to mind is Zender... and he's past it now. Granted he now has a signature model, but if Warwick had have been on the ball, to maximise sales, that signature should have come in the Jamiroquai heyday.

Just a thought.

Seriously though - is this even a signature model? Am I being blind but I can't see anything on the site that says that it's specifically a "Simon Rix" signature. Isn't it just a Shuker P that Simon Rix is using. If it is a signature model, what is special about it? I said the colour earlier but nobody has uttered anything about it's signature status or exactly what that means......

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[quote name='birdy' post='503978' date='Jun 2 2009, 04:59 PM']I am confused?!? Surely JJB and Simon Rix are merely endorsers in the same way that Dood is? Or is there actually a Shuker signature bass available for one or more of these arists?

Steve[/quote]

There is a JJB signature... but thats about it.

Simon Rix doesn't appear on the endorser list... but that may be because the site hasn't been updated...

I guess that the signature instrument (if it is one) may need to be added to the site.

But as to who would buy a bass because Simon Rix has one... I'm not certain... but as I said earlier, if it influences one person, then fair play to Jon.

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Stuart Zender's past it?? Christ, there's no hope for any of us if a young bloke like him is past it.

If this [i]isn't[/i] a signature model, then we're all talking cobblers then aren't we? I'm purely responding to the title of the thread, I haven't bothered to find out whether the bass is a sig or not, mainly because I don't care.

I have nothing against any luthier producing anything they like, I just question the relevance of some of the "artists" who get their own model. I played some covers at the Ship Inn last Saturday night, do I get my own signature model?

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[quote]If this [i]isn't[/i] a signature model, then we're all talking cobblers then aren't we?[/quote]
Based on Jon's home page I think its fair to assume this is a signature model [url="http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/"]http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/[/url]

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[quote name='Clarky' post='504119' date='Jun 2 2009, 07:30 PM']Based on Jon's home page I think its fair to assume this is a signature model [url="http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/"]http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/[/url][/quote]

Agreed - this page clearly says that it is a signature model:

[url="http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/pbassgal.htm"]http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/pbassgal.htm[/url]

As to the merits of Simon Rix as a signature artist, whatever any of us think of the Kaisers, they're one of the biggest UK acts of the last few years, and any luthier would be daft not to take up such a high profile endorsement.

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Wow, such antipathy!
Feel free to buy other makes ...

Many people have bought a JJ Burnel Shuker P because it's a great P bass. Indeed my 5 string is essentially a JJB. For me, and I imagine many others, the JJ Burnel connection is interesting but certainly not enough to make me pay a premium and wait 9 months for a bass. This isn't a Squier Pete Wentz for £200...

However having JJB come to Jon after he'd turned down a very large US based Precision bass maker beginning with F when they offered him a signature bass (allegedly) says a lot about the quality of the bloke's work.

I doubt very much if Jon went out to get Simon Rix, or any other "young band" bassplayer to have a bass built. But having a high profile band's bass player order a custom bass he'd be daft not to make the most of it.

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I don't see why a few people are having difficulty over whether its a signature model or not. Like its all that important? Even if it is, some of the critical comments made above could quite easily be made of Fender or other makers offering signature models. Get over it, I say.

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[quote name='mathewsanchez' post='503964' date='Jun 2 2009, 04:49 PM']Personally I dislike the Kaiser Chiefs and find their music annoying (no offense to anyone who likes them). What I don't understand is why such a mediocre band would need such a high end instrument. I'll probably get a bit of stick for what I just said but it's how I feel.[/quote]

Maybe because he wants to get the best bass he can, I play Punk does that mean I should play a Stagg?

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[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='504254' date='Jun 2 2009, 09:49 PM']I don't see why a few people are having difficulty over whether its a signature model or not. Like its all that important? Even if it is, some of the critical comments made above could quite easily be made of Fender or other makers offering signature models. Get over it, I say.[/quote]

There is a difference between an artist endorsing a product and having their own signature model. To my mind a signature model is a model that is intended to be duplicated for people to buy the exact same spec. It is important because if it is a signature model I would expect to be able to ring Jon up and buy one. If it is what I perceive a signature model to be then Jon would be 'knocking them out' which would be a significant change to his build to order policy. This is why it was important to me.
I could be completely wrong of course but thats how I see it.

Steve

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[quote name='mathewsanchez' post='503964' date='Jun 2 2009, 04:49 PM']Personally I dislike the Kaiser Chiefs and find their music annoying (no offense to anyone who likes them). What I don't understand is why such a mediocre band would need such a high end instrument. I'll probably get a bit of stick for what I just said but it's how I feel.[/quote]
:) perhaps I had better sell my Overwater - I don't even reach mediocre

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[quote name='bythesea' post='504268' date='Jun 2 2009, 10:01 PM']:) perhaps I had better sell my Overwater - I don't even reach mediocre[/quote]
I'm so sh*te, a washtub bass is probably the only thing appropriate! Cheerio Fenders and I'd better be cancelling the JJB

[attachment=26448:Tim_with_Bass.jpg]

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[quote name='mathewsanchez' post='503964' date='Jun 2 2009, 04:49 PM']What I don't understand is why such a mediocre band would need such a high end instrument.[/quote]

Need? Well, no. No one [i]needs[/i] anything much better than a Squier VM ,..
Want? Oh yes!
Does have? OH YES!!
Why?
Simply "Because we can"......

Life's too damn short to play anything other than the best bass you can afford.

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I find something ironic about the fact that the people going on about why a bassplayer from a [b]signed million selling international band[/b] needs an instrument worth over £1.5k are the people who have items like vintage Fenders and Musicman basses all worth around the £1k mark easily at RRP, if not more now in some cases, and aren't in signed bands playing on an internation scale.

Just sayin', that's all.

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[quote name='mathewsanchez' post='503964' date='Jun 2 2009, 04:49 PM']Personally I dislike the Kaiser Chiefs and find their music annoying (no offense to anyone who likes them). What I don't understand is why such a mediocre band would need such a high end instrument. I'll probably get a bit of stick for what I just said but it's how I feel.[/quote]

You should approach Jon Shuker, point out that you are a talented instrumentalist who could out-slap Simon Rix easily, and see if he either offers you your own signature model.

Might give you a bit of much-needed perspective.

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[quote name='Clarky' post='504119' date='Jun 2 2009, 07:30 PM']Based on Jon's home page I think its fair to assume this is a signature model [url="http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/"]http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/[/url][/quote]

I don't quite get how you get that afterall, it's just a picture... but yeah, from the gallery then yes. I was half expecting a link on the P Bass page like the JJ model.

As for "antipathy" I don't think there is any... certainly from my point of view, I was just asking how it was a signature model. Is it based on an existing bass? If it's not, what is special about this P bass as opposed to any other Shuker P bass? I think that's a reasonable question. If it's something as simple as the colour, then cool, so be it.

This thread is going out of control...

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[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='503700' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:34 PM'][url="http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/hlgal.htm"]http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/hlgal.htm[/url]

Wey hey! Lovely job. :) What a gorgeous trio.[/quote]


I'M SO HAPPY I BURST OUT LAUGHING LIKE A SCHOOOL GIRL!

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[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='504355' date='Jun 2 2009, 11:42 PM']You mean the single pole-pieces? That's just what Delano pickups look like. Check out the Sandbergs, they use them too.[/quote]

Some Delano's .. it's their Ferro one - the PMVC 4 FE/M2
[url="http://www.delano.de/home.html"]Read allllll about it[/url]

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