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Zoom MS-60B tone tweak question


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Hello everyone 

 

I have a question about the Zoom MS-60B and how it potentially might be used to "tame" particularly harsh or overly bright pickups. 

 

I have a Sadowsky MetroExpress 5, the basic model without the VTC circuit. I find the pickups way too bright and harsh for my taste, and short of replacing the pickups with a more vintage option, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how I could use the MS-60B to curb that harshness - perhaps, something that might warm up and round out the tone (for want of a better description). I know there are some very handy preamp options available in the Zoom, but I have barely scratched the surface of what this unit can do. 

 

As ever, my deepest thanks on advance. 

 

Julian aka Glassmoon 

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You could try using the "Ba PEQ" (parametric equaliser) effect to see if there's a specific range of frequencies that sound harsh to you. Set Q1 to maximum and Gain1 to minimum, and then adjust Freq1 while playing. This will be removing a narrow band of frequencies, so when you find a spot that makes the pickups sound, you can try reducing Q1 to make it wider and Gain1 to make it less dramatic.
If you're having trouble finding the offending range, try setting Gain1 to maximum instead, and twiddle the frequency until it really emphasises the bad sounds - then you can turn the gain down to knock them out.

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If you are planning on using the ms60b for this specific purpose, then i'd recommend downloading the  zoom effects manager. It basically allows you to upload any of the zoom effects to the unit, not just the bass effects. you can load it up with all the EQs and pre's that zoom offer and see what ones work best. Just remove the flanges and delays etc that you wont use. Some of the non-bass EQ's might work better for you.

 

 

Although could an 8th turn of the tone knob on the bass tame the harsh end? I'm guilty of thinking a pedal is needed when actually a tweak on the bass can make a change!

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Oooh. Thanks for those valuable ideas. I will try everything suggested and see what works and what doesn't. 

 

Last question, I use the unit for a cover band, so I have my stock, no FX patch (which goes into an impulse loader). I have a synth bass patch, a keyboard bass patch, one nasty dirt patch and two patches I use with a line selector to turn an effect on or off during the song.... So do I put the eq I end up with at the start of the chain, or the end? I'd say at the start? 

 

Many thanks for the replies 

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9 hours ago, glassmoon said:

Oooh. Thanks for those valuable ideas. I will try everything suggested and see what works and what doesn't. 

 

Last question, I use the unit for a cover band, so I have my stock, no FX patch (which goes into an impulse loader). I have a synth bass patch, a keyboard bass patch, one nasty dirt patch and two patches I use with a line selector to turn an effect on or off during the song.... So do I put the eq I end up with at the start of the chain, or the end? I'd say at the start? 

 

Many thanks for the replies 

The beauty of digital multifx is you can try both…

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I need to see if it does. The IRL world is very new to me. I still need to find a cab that I absolutely love.... But that requires money and it can become costly to buy and not like LOL 

 

I need to try the parametric EQ on the Zoom (with the ILR switched off) and then fiddle with LPFs

 

Thanks all

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41 minutes ago, paul_5 said:

Flatwound strings is where I’d start. 

I've considered them... maybe half wounds, or ground wounds, or whatever they are called... I play Elixir, which gives me some "softness", but let me look into that... stop me slapping at least 🤣

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