Bass for thousands or bass for hundreds

[Geek99]

6 hours ago, Bass4real said:

My post is NOT  my attempt to show Bass players on BASSCHAT how " clever " I think I am , BUT I am pretty big (tall) 188cm  in the UK  - In the U.S. that is 6'2  😁

  I agree with your reply 100% 

It's been my personal experience , not just my opinion, I have owned both expensive and basses costing under 400.00 dollars 

at the same time , more times than not I

was choosing a bass I paid a few hundred dollars for , I'm talking no matter playing a show , in the studio , or whatever.

My expensive " great " Bass guitars, were not getting played as much. 

  Personal Experience vs. opinions 

My post is intended for the kinda BASS player that's just been playing for a short time. 

Certainly , not to prove or show my whatever.

 

Thankyou for your reply 

I appreciate your feedback 

C C

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I did not doubt your motivation, your language was clear 

[Geek99]

3 hours ago, TheLowDown said:

 

It's in the UK too. I still think in feet and inches (and stones and lbs for weight), and I don't know anyone else that doesn't.

 

I do, I also flip comfortably between imperial and metric as the occasion demands 

I don’t understand “old money” c 1969 - that’s just plain weird 

[tauzero]

3 hours ago, TheLowDown said:

 

It's in the UK too. I still think in feet and inches (and stones and lbs for weight), and I don't know anyone else that doesn't.

 

 

The UK has been metric for 60 years now. Sadly, a large portion of the population of the UK is stuck in the past, when Britain had an Empire.

[TheLowDown]

13 minutes ago, tauzero said:

 

The UK has been metric for 60 years now. Sadly, a large portion of the population of the UK is stuck in the past, when Britain had an Empire.

This may well be true. Pints, miles etc. Feet and inches for height, arguably used by the majority of the UK population. I don't see things changing anytime soon tbh.

[Lozz196]

I don`t think I`m stuck in the past or craving an empire so much as I simply can`t relate to weight of people in kilos. Height in metres and distance in metres or kilometres no problem, but tell me someone weighs 93kg or 68kg and it just doesn`t tell me anything whereas tell me 15 stone or 10 stone 4lbs I then get an idea of their size/shape.

 

This also applies to just saying their weight in ponds as they do in the US - tell me someone weighs 163lbs and until I`ve done the math so to speak into stones again it doesn`t hold any relevance.

 

I should however add that weight of basses in kilos I have no problem with, so clearly have my priorities right.

[Stub Mandrel]

I'm lucky, born in 62 I grew up to know both systems. I'm bilingual.

[Frank Blank]

1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said:

I'm bilingual.

 

Gesundheit.

[rwillett]

36 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

I don`t think I`m stuck in the past or craving an empire so much as I simply can`t relate to weight of people in kilos. Height in metres and distance in metres or kilometres no problem, but tell me someone weighs 93kg or 68kg and it just doesn`t tell me anything whereas tell me 15 stone or 10 stone 4lbs I then get an idea of their size/shape.

 

This also applies to just saying their weight in ponds as they do in the US - tell me someone weighs 163lbs and until I`ve done the math so to speak into stones again it doesn`t hold any relevance.

 

I should however add that weight of basses in kilos I have no problem with, so clearly have my priorities right.

 

It's odd how some things work per measurements.

 

Milk - Pints

Miles per gallon , not miles per litre

Beer - Pints

Paint - Litres

Height - feet and inchs

Weight - Kg (now), took some time to convert but my electric scales are now in Kg rather than lbs and Oz

Bass weight - Kg

Wood measurements - inches as well as mm. Its mad how you go to a timber yard and they quote the width of wood in inches but the length in metres. At least they do around here.

Cooking - Mainly grammes but occasionally cups. I have two daughters who like to cook and they seem happy with anything.

Shirt collar size, waistband on trousers and inside leg - inches, sadly some are too big now

Bottles of gin etc - Millilitres

Shorts (alcohol not clothing) - millilitres but beer is in pints?

Road speed - Miles per hour

Road steepness - Percentage. Which is far more sensible but I still convert to 1:x which is far more difficult to understand

Guitar scale and length - Inches

 

 

[Lozz196]

So far from being imperialistic we`re actually just incredibly confused 🤣

[tauzero]

1 hour ago, Lozz196 said:

I don`t think I`m stuck in the past or craving an empire so much as I simply can`t relate to weight of people in kilos. Height in metres and distance in metres or kilometres no problem, but tell me someone weighs 93kg or 68kg and it just doesn`t tell me anything whereas tell me 15 stone or 10 stone 4lbs I then get an idea of their size/shape.

 

I'm the opposite, I have no idea what stones are.

[Woodinblack]

1 hour ago, tauzero said:

 

I'm the opposite, I have no idea what stones are.

 

Like farenheight.. I have nothing in my head that gives me a concept of what that means, and unlike km/miles etc it is a trickier calculation, so someone says 70° - I don't know, I guess it isn't really cold, and I guess it isn't really hot, but it means next to nothing

[mowf]

I quite often go to the timber yard and ask for "2.4m of 4" x 2"", or an 8' x 4' sheet of 18mm ply. Nobody bats an eyelid.

[neepheid]

How did we get here?  Have I wandered into Off Topic by mistake?

[Steve Browning]

3 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

I'm lucky, born in 62 I grew up to know both systems. I'm bilingual.

Like Dusty Springfield?

[rwillett]

2 hours ago, neepheid said:

How did we get here?  Have I wandered into Off Topic by mistake?

You must be new here....

[Ed_S]

5 hours ago, rwillett said:

 

It's odd how some things work per measurements.

 

Bass weight - Kg

Guitar scale and length - Inches

 

 

 

Glad it's not just me with that. Weight of me, stones and pounds, but weight of basses very definitely kilograms. Then scale and board radius are in inches, but action and pickup height are in millimetres. And even though the rest of the neck measurements are in inches, the nut width is in millimetres.

 

2 hours ago, neepheid said:

How did we get here?  Have I wandered into Off Topic by mistake?

 

I measure all my basses in the same daft mixture of metric and imperial units irrespective of their value.

 

(read: no idea 🙂)

[Lozz196]

4 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

Like farenheight.. I have nothing in my head that gives me a concept of what that means, and unlike km/miles etc it is a trickier calculation, so someone says 70° - I don't know, I guess it isn't really cold, and I guess it isn't really hot, but it means next to nothing

I`m even more confused than that, if it`s cold it`s centigrade, if it`s hot it`s fahrenheit.

[tauzero]

13 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

Like farenheight.. I have nothing in my head that gives me a concept of what that means, and unlike km/miles etc it is a trickier calculation, so someone says 70° - I don't know, I guess it isn't really cold, and I guess it isn't really hot, but it means next to nothing

 

I do know what -40F is in Celcius. I also know 32F and 212F. Everything else is a mystery.

[Jack]

I can picture a pint, and I sort of understand miles. Everything else is a nightmare. A while back my drummer's dad helped me reverse my car in a dingy venue car park. When he told me I had 3 feet to go I had to stop, work out that I'm a little under 6 feet tall because tall people are often proud of hitting the 6 feet mark, and then realise that I probably had the length of my legs still to drive before I hit anything. 

 

I've got some quite expensive basses, but the ones I always recommend are the G&L tributes. Funny old world. 

Edited Thursday at 19:43 by Jack

[Grooverjr]

I will try to bring this back on topic.....by talking about mountain bikes 😂. Before I destroyed my knee I did a lot of Enduro or lighter Enduro biking and the cheap vs expensive thing is even worse in that world, although it's mainly just expensive vs bankruptcy (new bikes can easily run 8 grand or more). It is also a horribly gearhead scene and as it's not really for an audience then there is all sorts of judgement going on. I rode hardtail bikes in the late 80s early 90s when suspension was just becoming a thing and when I picked it up again in the mid 2010s I started out with a cheapish bitsa of a decent full suspension bike. It looked a mess but I could ride most of the trails with my mates on more expensive bikes. Then the GAS kicked in and eventually I was on too much bike. I still had fun and it allowed me to get through features that were beyond my skill level because it was so capable but....(back to topic alert) I still had much more fun on a hardtail that cost a quarter of the price and that was nowhere near enough bike (hence in large part the knee problems) because it was just so much more me. I got on it and it felt like home. With MTB it isn't completely the same as with basses because equipment does in some ways limit you (a very cheap bike or one without sufficient suspension travel just won't make it down a proper double black run without breaking itself or you) but it is the same in that a) I made decisions based quite a lot on aesthetics (even dafter than doing that for an instrument) b) I had the most fun with the 'right' bike, not the 'best' or most expensive bike and c) you can feel the difference with a really good but of kit and it does make the most of your ability. Whether or not it is worth the money depends on your pocket depth but fundamentally it is still about what makes you feel good. For some people part of that is how it looks or how much it cost or what it projects about you, which is ok for them but I learnt not to give a monkey's about that (especially as I didn't have any respect for the opinions of the vast majority of the other 'scene' types in MTB). I love some cheapies and some more pricey basses but the bass that I always reach for is also the most expensive. But that is because it does everything I want ( as a custom bass should). I don't gig so for me the way a bass looks and feels is an integral part of the experience, alongside the sound and I don't have toerags or pissheads to worry about. 

[merello]

I got back into playing because a school I worked in got two cheap Westfield P-Basses for the music department. They asked me to check them out. One was reasonably playable, the other was immense! Immediately my bassoon was tickled and I was back in the game!

Initially I bought an electric guitar but pretty soon had a purple squire P-bass bought off a colleague and away I went!

17 years later - Fender Precision MIM, Fender Cabronita Thinline and a Martin D10E.