Voluntary Trainwreck

[bremen]

Might be a good name for my new band, but that only occurred to me once I'd typed it.

 

I'm playing in a new band, looking for a singer. I know someone I'd like to introduce to the drummer and guitarist; I've worked with him before and really enjoyed his performances and his company.

 

However, both he and the drummer are very...wilful might be the word. As in horses that resist being "broken" or toddlers that throw their toys at their siblings. They are almost certain to fight. Possibly to the death.

 

My question for you, dear agony aunts is: should I risk it? Apart from the risk of bloodshed and involvement of law enforcement agencies, what's the worst that could happen?

 

I've been in bands where the female singer is in a relationship with other band member(s). Surely if I can deal with that I can deal with the occasional trip to A&E?

 

I wonder what Roger Daltrey or Steve Hanley would advise.

 

 

 

 

[neepheid]

Have an audition/jam, see what happens?  They might be wilful in complementary ways?

[WinterMute]

Many of the greatest bands had an intrinsic tension if not outright hostility at their core, any group of creative and intelligent people will inevitably clash, the trick is in managing and to some extent, coping with the fallout of the inevitable blow-ups. It's partly what makes those bands great.

 

Bit like a marriage I guess.

 

We can't all be Rush, besties for 50 years...

[Lozz196]

I`ve always figured that as long as the conflict doesn`t actively involve me then let others get on with it.

[bremen]

My thoughts exactly, all of you,thanks.

[Jean-Luc Pickguard]

As I get older my ability to tolerate people behaving like tw@ts diminishes exponentially. I wouldn't want to be in a band with drama queens.

[bremen]

8 minutes ago, Jean-Luc Pickguard said:

As I get older my ability to tolerate people behaving like tw@ts diminishes exponentially. I wouldn't want to be in a band with drama queens.

I'm the opposite. Used to bother me but I'm getting a lot better at shrugging.

[PaulThePlug]

Start a band with the singer, and look for a drummer and guitarist?..

 

[Boodang]

Do it! Use the whole thing as an excuse to vlog said 'dramas' on youtube. That could prove more profitable than the gigs.

Edited December 20 by Boodang

[gjones]

17 hours ago, bremen said:

Might be a good name for my new band, but that only occurred to me once I'd typed it.

 

I'm playing in a new band, looking for a singer. I know someone I'd like to introduce to the drummer and guitarist; I've worked with him before and really enjoyed his performances and his company.

 

However, both he and the drummer are very...wilful might be the word. As in horses that resist being "broken" or toddlers that throw their toys at their siblings. They are almost certain to fight. Possibly to the death.

 

My question for you, dear agony aunts is: should I risk it? Apart from the risk of bloodshed and involvement of law enforcement agencies, what's the worst that could happen?

 

I've been in bands where the female singer is in a relationship with other band member(s). Surely if I can deal with that I can deal with the occasional trip to A&E?

 

I wonder what Roger Daltrey or Steve Hanley would advise.

 

 

 

 

Drummers don't have the right to be opinionated, they're just drummers after all. Stewart Copeland never figured that out.

[Beedster]

21 hours ago, WinterMute said:

Many of the greatest bands had an intrinsic tension if not outright hostility at their core, any group of creative and intelligent people will inevitably clash, the trick is in managing and to some extent, coping with the fallout of the inevitable blow-ups. It's partly what makes those bands great.

 

Bit like a marriage I guess.

 

We can't all be Rush, besties for 50 years...

 

This ^

 

Life's too short not to give it a go. At least you're eyes wide open 👍

[bremen]

"Life's for living!"

"Well it's hard to know what else to do with it"

 

-Noel Coward

[casapete]

On 19/12/2024 at 12:47, Jean-Luc Pickguard said:

As I get older my ability to tolerate people behaving like tw@ts diminishes exponentially. I wouldn't want to be in a band with drama queens.

Same with me. 50 years of being in bands, some 15 of which were spent putting up with tw@ts because it

was my living and I needed to play. Fortunately the last 15 years has been completely the opposite,

and I was lucky to be in a great band earning money with great like minded people.

Since semi retiring I now play with my best mate in a duo, and an old mate in a blues trio so it’s 

just a pleasure going to play local gigs for me. 

[bremen]

Well, I've let the drummer hear the singer's material and he likes it. So...onward!

 

To be clear, neither drummer nor singer is a twât - both are strong personalities. One's fire, one's ice; it's the bass player's job to be luke warm water.

Edited December 20 by bremen

[Mickeyboro]

I have another thread going about frontmen.

If playing music was my living, I could probably put up with a lot more than I am currently prepared to. Mind you, in that case I’d hope there was a manager character slightly removed from the action to bang heads together/administer cups of tea etc.

[Jean-Luc Pickguard]

4 hours ago, bremen said:

To be clear, neither drummer nor singer is a twât

You don't neccesarily need to be one to sometimes behave like one.

 

On 19/12/2024 at 11:45, bremen said:

However, both he and the drummer are very...wilful might be the word. As in horses that resist being "broken" or toddlers that throw their toys at their siblings. They are almost certain to fight. Possibly to the death.

If that isn't tw@ttish behaviour, I don't know what is.

[bremen]

Sometimes my exaggeration for comic effect misses the mark.

 

Happens a million times every day.

[LowB_FTW]

On 19/12/2024 at 11:47, neepheid said:

Have an audition/jam, see what happens?  They might be wilful in complementary ways?

And don't forget to record it. On Video. 😅

 

Mark

[bremen]

A list of non-twâts, notoriously prone to twâttish behavior, with whom I'd gladly have shared a stage/studio:

 

Ian Dury

Mark E Smith

Miles Davis

Keith Moon

Morrissey...oh hang on, I said non-twâts...

[SICbass]

Set up the meet. Livestream it. Sell tickets.

[bremen]

It'll be the best thing since the NME got Mark E Smith, Nick Cave and Shane McGowan together in a bar with a bottomless tab