Headrush FRFR112 ?

[dmccombe7]

I've found in smaller venues i struggle to hear the bass because i'm so close to the cabs.

Was wondering if anyone has tried the Headrush FRFR112 for bass more as a monitor angled towards myself either on the floor or possibly on top of my existing cabs. 

I could quite easily fit it in front of my effects pedals.

Any thoughts ?

Dave

[Angelus]

On 24/12/2024 at 16:49, dmccombe7 said:

I've found in smaller venues i struggle to hear the bass because i'm so close to the cabs.

Was wondering if anyone has tried the Headrush FRFR112 for bass more as a monitor angled towards myself either on the floor or possibly on top of my existing cabs. 

I could quite easily fit it in front of my effects pedals.

Any thoughts ?

Dave

Yes, started using one last year, with a small amp & cab’ simulator pedal. Could loan you one to try, if you want? 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Angelus
Spelling, I’m an idiot.

[okusman]

Go In-ears

Reduce stage volume, and actually properly hear yourself. Not get tinnitus.

[dmccombe7]

IEM was my first option however we don't always put guitars and bass thru the PA so that would be an issue unless you can offer a suggestion to get around it other than the obvious. 

Dave

[fretmeister]

I wasn’t impressed. The Yamaha DXR10 was a lot better.

[okusman]

We always put everything through our mixer, therefore everyone gets the IEM mix. We don’t always need to put the bass/guitar through the FOH.

Perhaps this was ‘the obvious’!!

[dmccombe7]

53 minutes ago, okusman said:

We always put everything through our mixer, therefore everyone gets the IEM mix. We don’t always need to put the bass/guitar through the FOH.

Perhaps this was ‘the obvious’!!

It was the obvious answer. Afraid our drummer who owns the PA isn't happy putting bass thru it unless we have the subs which means van hire and more cost. I've tried explaining the QSC 3-way 15's are more than capable of taking bass but he won't budge on it i'm afraid. It would make life a lot easier. Would save me carrying bass cabs about and set up and down would be far quicker.

We have talked about putting the bass thru the desk but not out front and i could get a signal back for IEM. Only benefit i see there is protecting my ears of course plus on stage volume would be lower all round.

I'll keep working at it. 

Dave

[KingPrawn]

It's a shame your drummer won't completely leap to 15" Speakers. I use RCF 15's more than capable which means we are full IEM. Would there be any mileage in having a small desk for yourself between you and your amp? You could take a signal from your thru output if it has one. IEM units have 2 channels you could set up the mixer by taking the guitar and bass through your mixer. Take a signal from the aux on the mixer to one channel of the IEM unit and a signal from a small desk to the other channel and set your mix?. I think it should work in principle?

Edited December 29, 2024 by KingPrawn

[MichaelDean]

2 hours ago, dmccombe7 said:

IEM was my first option however we don't always put guitars and bass thru the PA so that would be an issue unless you can offer a suggestion to get around it other than the obvious. 

Dave

You can still send bass/guitars to IEMs without it going to FOH though. Just send them to the aux feed and keep the channel faders down. If it makes you better as a band because you can hear yourself, I'd argue it's worth the additional setup time. 

[dmccombe7]

1 hour ago, MichaelDean said:

You can still send bass/guitars to IEMs without it going to FOH though. Just send them to the aux feed and keep the channel faders down. If it makes you better as a band because you can hear yourself, I'd argue it's worth the additional setup time. 

Yes that's where i am with it at the moment. Its the best i can get at the moment.

 

I did consider sending my bass to one IEM channel and possibly an on stage mic to pick up what i would hear on stage to the 2nd IEM channel. Think the mic would need a pre-amp of some kind tho and its starting to get costly.

 

Think the desk signal is the way to go for now. The guitarist has also agreed to look into doing it this way..

 

Have to say if we had everything thru the desk we would have full and better control of the overall band sound.

Dave

[Angelus]

On 29/12/2024 at 18:05, okusman said:

Go In-ears

Reduce stage volume, and actually properly hear yourself. Not get tinnitus.

Tried that, went into desk and no onstage sound from me. Drummer complained that he kept loosing track as although I’m shocking at playing bass, it did actually help him find his way through the songs. So now, even if I’m using IEM’s, I still have the headrush on stage and let the drummer control the volume. 

[dmccombe7]

12 hours ago, Angelus said:

Tried that, went into desk and no onstage sound from me. Drummer complained that he kept loosing track as although I’m shocking at playing bass, it did actually help him find his way through the songs. So now, even if I’m using IEM’s, I still have the headrush on stage and let the drummer control the volume. 

Did you stop using the Rumble altogether Lee. ?

Dave

[gafbass02]

I use them (when I’m not IEMs) really good, very happy with them. This video captures the on stage sound from them pretty well 

 

[Angelus]

On 31/12/2024 at 09:28, dmccombe7 said:

Did you stop using the Rumble altogether Lee. ?

Dave

Yes, rumble is being used as a bedside cabinet just now. 🙄 Should really sell it, or use it.