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8 minutes ago, cetera said:

Beato is just posting clickbait.

Again. With the amount of subscribers he has, he doesn’t need to do this, but it seems that this is the furrow he wants to plough. I’m tempted to unsubscribe.

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1 hour ago, cetera said:

 

Neither of which ARE yacht rock.... so you've missed the point...

 

As for the style of music and the term 'yacht rock' that has been affectionately applied to it, I love it. The Doobies, Steely Dan, Hall & Oates, Ambrosia, Toto etc are some of the finest musicians with the best written, arranged and performed music in popular music history.

 

Yacht Rock has seen a huge resurgence in popularity over the last few years, raising the profile of the classic original artists....and enabling a movement of fantastic new artists like Young Gun Silver Fox, Dawn Patrol, Page99, State Cows, Joel Sarakula, Big Horizon etc

 

I'm loving it.... and Beato is just posting clickbait.

Steely Dan…

I watched a TV show about their geniusness a while back and the only thing that impressed me was how much effort they put into making elevator music. 

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I won't even bother watching this. Rick's content has become more and more focused on clickbait, misleading titles and ranting. I should probably unfollow him on YouTube and it seems his great content is all behind him now. 

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On 27/12/2024 at 19:34, Frank Blank said:

 

...and tram cab rides around The Hague.

 

Really? I used to go there a lot, I think I'm going to have a quick peak 😃

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I remember teenage arguments about what band or song was or wasn't whatever type of music. It's just using words to describe sounds so as to connect bands/songs with a similar vibe. Spotify playlist does this far more effectively than worrying what genre something is, albeit the topic is a guaranteed conversation starter - sort of a social function rather than intellectual one!

 

RE youtube, the content creators are slaves to the algorythm in a similar way as those of us who are employees are to our bosses/annual reviews etc. You got to do what your employer tells you if you want to get money at the end of the month!

 

Combine the two and being contentious about a musical genre ticks youtube editorial boxes. The sad thing is it takes away from the credibility and often interest of the youtuber. Years back I really enjoyed Rob Chapman videos as at least for the first few years he just came across as genuine and funny. But last five or six years I can't cope with watching anything he produces as the youtube algorythm has acted essentially like an editor and taken him down a path that destroyed what he was originally good at - he's now just patronising.

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YouTube content creators have to constantly come up with something new and attention grabbing or they risk fading into obscurity and being forgotten. In the same way as a writer has only a certain number of good songs or books in them, creators only have a certain number of things to say. Once they've done that, they usually start repeating themselves or chasing views and clicks by being controversial or provocative.

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On 28/12/2024 at 18:26, Doctor J said:

I can't wait until we get to "Hair Metal", a massively stupid term which also didn't exist until long after the scene died on its arse.

 

Really? I heard Hair Metal as a term in the mid 80s, by which time it most certainly hadn't died. I mean originally it was just metal but then it started to diversify a bit between the sung too high and sung too low types.

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Really? It was all hard rock/glam rock until the 2000's 'round our way. I honestly never heard that term until the scene had passed into the warm bosom of nostalgia. The 'hair' bit only came in once most people didn't have any anymore.

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it was pretty common where I was to describe a more american form of metal. Glam rock was always viewed as 'that 70s thing' of groups like sweet, hair rock was mid 80s to late 80s and the first time I recall someone saying it was related to the album under lock and key by Dokken which was given to me by a guy who was a writer for kerang, saying he didn't like hair metal, which would have been a promotional white label at the end of 85.

I never saw it as a stupid term, in a use where most terms were stupid, it was about the most descriptive.

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3 hours ago, Doctor J said:

Really? It was all hard rock/glam rock until the 2000's 'round our way. I honestly never heard that term until the scene had passed into the warm bosom of nostalgia. The 'hair' bit only came in once most people didn't have any anymore.

Funny, I never heard hair metal called glam rock until much later than its heyday (and only from US sources). I guess because, for us, glam was still exclusively a term for 70s bands like The Sweet, The Glitter Band and T-Rex.

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10 minutes ago, TrevorR said:

Funny, I never heard hair metal called glam rock until much later than its heyday (and only from US sources). I guess because, for us, glam was still exclusively a term for 70s bands like The Sweet, The Glitter Band and T-Rex.

 

Indeed - I wouldn't associate any of the 80s / 90s guitar rock based bands with the word glam back then, and still wouldn't.

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Thankfully there are a lot of hairs to split on this crucial topic. Rick should get a solid 30 minutes out of it.

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I got shown those yacht rock vids I reckon at least 15 years ago by my mates who were in indie bands who definitely didn't appreciate the music , for them it was a sneering derogatory take on the music focused on superficial aspects of it like the dated keyboard sounds and moustaches etc, I thought it was vaguely amusing but I've never been very cool and even at the time had an appreciation of that mix of sophisticated harmony , funk rhythms and rock guitar, I get that now it is a bit more of an appreciative take what with taches , mullets and dodgy keys sounds having come back around into the mainstream but I'm actually with Rick on this and agree they've lumped together a disparate collection of artists to suit their narrative 

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