How far is AI reaching?

[tauzero]

Just read a review of the Epiphone E1 Thunderbird and it seemed rather redolent of the sort of phraseology that AI comes up with. 

 

https://www.guitarlizard.com/epiphone-thunderbird-e1-review/

 

This type of AI is excellent for beginner and experienced user alike, making the generation of text rapid and accurate. The rapid and accurate generation of text is easily accomplished by this type of AI, which is usable by both beginners and experienced users.

[binky_bass]

Smells like AI to me. SkyNet is coming for us...

[Lozz196]

21 minutes ago, binky_bass said:

Smells like AI to me. SkyNet is coming for us...

It wants your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle 🕶️

[ahpook]

It's written like a GCSE project where they're trying to pad the word count.

 

Yes, it's AI.

[binky_bass]

13 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

It wants your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle 🕶️

If I had any of those 3, I'd give them to it. 

[Dood]

They're coming for our jobs! 

 

Well, not yet maybe as every single A.I assisted (ehem.. written) review I've read lacks any tangible technical understanding. 9/10 the technical specification and marketing blurb has been dumped in to the "writers" AI of choice and then it is asked to write a magazine review based on that information. Some are good and aren't too painful to read, but, none pull on years of deep learning and experience, rather regurgitate what it can copy from elsewhere. I suspect even my own reviews have been used! 

 

Gosh, if only there were a magazine that was free to read and subscribe to, run by knowledgeable bassists who record high quality videos to demonstrate equipment accurately! 

[Doctor J]

What is left to be said about a repeatedly regurgitated design? Let the robot handle it and go down the pub.

[Dood]

3 minutes ago, Doctor J said:

What is left to be said about a repeatedly regurgitated design? Let the robot handle it and go down the pub.

 

You make a strong point actually. After over 400 gear reviews, videos and magazine columns, sometimes it's challenging to find new ways to describe the same tuning keys ha ha!

[Mykesbass]

It likes the three point bridge. Nuff said.

[Burns-bass]

10 hours ago, Dood said:

They're coming for our jobs! 

 

Well, not yet maybe as every single A.I assisted (ehem.. written) review I've read lacks any tangible technical understanding. 9/10 the technical specification and marketing blurb has been dumped in to the "writers" AI of choice and then it is asked to write a magazine review based on that information. Some are good and aren't too painful to read, but, none pull on years of deep learning and experience, rather regurgitate what it can copy from elsewhere. I suspect even my own reviews have been used! 

 

Gosh, if only there were a magazine that was free to read and subscribe to, run by knowledgeable bassists who record high quality videos to demonstrate equipment accurately! 

The use of AI is becoming endemic. We called out one of our freelance writers for using it recently (a Cambridge educated PhD) as it was so obvious and egregious.

I can understand why someone running a website that’s created to sell advertising space may take a shortcut like using AI but I was upset and a little offended that someone being paid a huge amount of money for creating 100% original content would try and pass something off to us like this.

 

What was even more amazing was that they assumed we wouldn’t notice or even check for AI involvement.

 

World has gone mad.

 

[Bilbo]

I wonder whether AI will live up to the hype in the long term. We have to understand that AI is a product like any other and no-one is going to sell it on its shortcomings. Everything I have read/ heard completed my AI has been a tiny bit rubbish. I am not impressed so far. I go back to the old adage 'garbage in, garbage out'. I suspect it will work perfectly well for the narrative on the back of a cereal packet or a jingle for toothpaste but replacing Art? Show me the money!

[Doctor J]

We are but a few baby steps into the AI journey, don't forget. There is a long, long way to go before we truly see what it's capable of and understand the consequences.

[binky_bass]

The consequences will be dire. IF AI does become truly intelligent, we're likely buggered. The absolutely true fact that humans are a HUGELY negative force on the planet will be our undoing IF AI becomes intelligent to the point of understanding that to protect the planet and all other species on it humans must go. 

[Norris]

The main problem with AI right now is the blind trust that people place in a technology that is still in its infancy.

 

I've been using AI related to software development for quite some time now and I don't trust it at all. It is far too quick to "hallucinate" (i.e. make stuff up) and to assert that it is correct until you give it evidence that it is wrong. A good example of this is to ask ChatGPT (version 4o) how many "r"s there are in the word "strawberry" - it will insist there are only 2 until you tell it to actually count them!

 

It's still a great tool for doing a lot of grunt work, but you need to keep a close eye on it and don't blindly trust what it comes up with

[Hellzero]

The true good side to A.I. is that human beings who are already assisted will become extinct quite fast.

[simisker]

So many words, and not one "I..." . It's the biggest tell.

 

The achilles heel of AI is opinion. The only solution that ASD billionaire techbros will ever be provide to that is an artificial/dangerous/legally vulnerable aggregator.

 

I reckon

Edited Saturday at 11:29 by simisker

[TimR]

AI is not intelligent. It doesn't learn anything and has no real-world feedback to enable it to learn from its surroundings. 

 

People are still learning how it can and can't be used so like any new tool, the initial attempts at producing results are going to be clumsy and inaccurate. 

 

It's certainly not about to eliminate humans. 

[Hellzero]

Just in case intelligere means reading between the lines.

 

Just think about it.

[simisker]

13 hours ago, Dood said:

 

You make a strong point actually. After over 400 gear reviews, videos and magazine columns, sometimes it's challenging to find new ways to describe the same tuning keys ha ha!

True! But you'd be able to put "sometimes it's challenging to find new ways to describe the same tuning keys ha ha!" in a review. You'd NEVER see that in LLM AI output.

[binky_bass]

4 minutes ago, TimR said:

It's certainly not about to eliminate humans. 

Not yet Tim, not yet... 

 

As mentioned in my previous posts "IF AI becomes truly intelligent..."

[simisker]

4 minutes ago, binky_bass said:

Not yet Tim, not yet... 

 

As mentioned in my previous posts "IF AI becomes truly intelligent..."

 

"... it will still not be able to physically stop all humans from reaching the power switches".

[binky_bass]

6 minutes ago, simisker said:

 

"... it will still not be able to physically stop all humans from reaching the power switches".

Have you not seen terminator??

[simisker]

No, sorry, I didn't realise it was a manual. I just assumed it was one human's flight of peril-based fantasy based on pulp sci-fi

[Stub Mandrel]

23 minutes ago, TimR said:

AI is not intelligent. It doesn't learn anything and has no real-world feedback to enable it to learn from its surroundings. 

 

I'm not sure that's true. I researched a topic then asked ChatGPT to write an article as an experiment.

 

The first draft had some egregious errors, such as putting the subject's birthplace in Ireland, not Wales.

 

When challenged it checked, apologised and corrected the error.

 

I've since had a conversation with someone who has been using ai a lot partly through their studies. He recommends starting with a short, clear brief. Then a process of review and refinement; not using the AI as a substitute for learning, but a tool for gathering, organising and presenting information. To be effective a tool has to be wielded by a skilled hand.

[TimR]

24 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

I've since had a conversation with someone who has been using ai a lot partly through their studies. He recommends starting with a short, clear brief. Then a process of review and refinement; not using the AI as a substitute for learning, but a tool for gathering, organising and presenting information. To be effective a tool has to be wielded by a skilled hand.

 

It can only work on what it has been told or what information is already available.

 

It doesn't learn by exloring the enviroment, doing and failing which is 90% of how humans learn. It's very limited. 

 

Until humans understand how intelligence works, they can't program intelligence in. We have only just mapped the brain of a fruit fly, we know the connections, but we still dont understand how they work. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0lw0nxw71po

 

Edited Saturday at 12:26 by TimR