How far is AI reaching?

[diskwave]

51 minutes ago, TimR said:

AI is not intelligent. It doesn't learn anything and has no real-world feedback to enable it to learn from its surroundings

This and puts into perspective just how incredibly powerful the human brain, mind, consciousness trilogy actually is. I think it will be decades before AI can even closely match what we already have. But when it does happen then yes, human existence on this planet will be terminated.

[knirirr]

This book might be of interest: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691249131/ai-snake-oil#preview

 

I've encountered "AI" when it comes to programming and have found it to be of limited use at best, essentially as a fancy autocomplete when writing boilerplate code.

[Burns-bass]

4 minutes ago, knirirr said:

This book might be of interest: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691249131/ai-snake-oil#preview

 

I've encountered "AI" when it comes to programming and have found it to be of limited use at best, essentially as a fancy autocomplete when writing boilerplate code.

My friend who is a coder in financial services has said you can spot the examples of code completed by AI. It lacks the sophistication and care of a professional. I have no knowledge to support the statement, but the principle is the same for writing (which I do know about).

[tegs07]

43 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

To be effective a tool has to be wielded by a skilled hand.

Indeed. Like a chisel or a lathe AI can be a useful tool and a great time saver doing a lot of the “grunt work”. However it is not very good if you don’t know what you’re doing to begin with. The old saying in programming garbage in, garbage out definitely applies.

 

As for other claims on here about AI killing off humanity to save the planet. AI is the latest offshoot of human ingenuity (which is as constructive as it is destructive) and is totally reliant on the mining, electricity generation, construction and all the other “negative” human activities. It would need to collectively commit suicide.

 

Used well AI can definitely help efficiency and reduce cost and waste. There’s a lot of hype but a lot of potential as well. It’s early days but incredibly interesting IMO.

[TorturedSaints]

eBay also can also use AI descriptions as well now for lazy sellers. Here’s a current description from a current eBay listing for a BF One10 :

 

This Barefaced bass cabinet features a single speaker with a power output of 250W, making it suitable for use with bass guitars. As a cabinet amplifier, it is designed to deliver powerful and clear bass tones for musicians looking to enhance their sound. The Barefaced brand is known for producing high-quality and reliable equipment for bass players, ensuring that this cabinet will meet the needs of professional and amateur musicians alike.

 

 

Complete AI b#llocks. 

 

 

[knirirr]

1 hour ago, Burns-bass said:

My friend who is a coder in financial services has said you can spot the examples of code completed by AI. It lacks the sophistication and care of a professional. I have no knowledge to support the statement, but the principle is the same for writing (which I do know about).

 

I suspect he's right; it doesn't actually know what it's doing any more than it does when writing boilerplate text.

Some colleagues find that it gives them a good first approximation, though.

[Geek99]

Ai writes rubbish software code with no imagination. All it ever gives me is sight of a potential solution drawn from many sources .  It’s coding by committee 

[chris_b]

Imagine the difference between the Montgolfier brothers and NASA.

 

Give AI time and it will sort out the wrinkles.

 

What it is now is nothing like what it could/will become.

[Dood]

4 hours ago, Bilbo said:

I wonder whether AI will live up to the hype in the long term. We have to understand that AI is a product like any other and no-one is going to sell it on its shortcomings. Everything I have read/ heard completed my AI has been a tiny bit rubbish. I am not impressed so far. I go back to the old adage 'garbage in, garbage out'. I suspect it will work perfectly well for the narrative on the back of a cereal packet or a jingle for toothpaste but replacing Art? Show me the money!

Ha ha yes! I remember in my ole days of electronics logic and later coding, the adage we used was SISO .. 😂

 

When it comes to A.I. dishing out nonsense, it reminds me of this 80’s (?) interview with Bjork, long before smartphones were even a thing. The first 20 seconds says it all. I feel that A.I, like electronic music will only get better when we’ve figured out how to use it properly and improve what we put in. 

 

 

[Tandro]

4 hours ago, binky_bass said:

The consequences will be dire. IF AI does become truly intelligent, we're likely buggered. The absolutely true fact that humans are a HUGELY negative force on the planet will be our undoing IF AI becomes intelligent to the point of understanding that to protect the planet and all other species on it humans must go. 

Yep, I saw that movie too

[Dood]

34 minutes ago, chris_b said:

Imagine the difference between the Montgolfier brothers and NASA.

 

Give AI time and it will sort out the wrinkles.

 

What it is now is nothing like what it could/will become.

I agree! It’s still in its infancy. I write manual prompts to prime AI to be able to dish up high quality output, but most specialised (paid) apps already have that built in (coding, image creation, creative writing apps/sites, whatever), but I envisage, like “Apple Intelligence” along with many other products, the functionality will be baked in to Operating Systems as standard and for the most part not even visible. 

[binky_bass]

8 minutes ago, Tandro said:

Yep, I saw that movie too

I'll bet you £500 we'll all be killed by robots. Payment due upon successful death.

[Geek99]

32 minutes ago, Dood said:

Ha ha yes! I remember in my ole days of electronics logic and later coding, the adage we used was SISO .. 😂

 

When it comes to A.I. dishing out nonsense, it reminds me of this 80’s (?) interview with Bjork, long before smartphones were even a thing. The first 20 seconds says it all. I feel that A.I, like electronic music will only get better when we’ve figured out how to use it properly and improve what we put in. 

 

 

I could listen to her reading out a phone book. Lovely accent that she has . 

[wateroftyne]

I don’t mind it as an assistant to mundane, repetitive tasks. But… as a replacement for human creativity, or emotion? F that, with bells on. I absolutely detest it.

 

It’s an inevitable development in technology, but one which opens a miserable new chapter.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 15:58 by wateroftyne

[TimR]

1 hour ago, wateroftyne said:

I don’t mind it as an assistant to mundane, repetitive tasks. But… as a replacement for human creativity, or emotion? F that, with bells on. I absolutely detest it.

 

It’s an inevitable development in technology, but one which opens a miserable new chapter.

 

 

 

I don't know. There's plenty of examples of human creativity on Spotify. I suspect Bjork is correct. 

[tauzero]

6 hours ago, binky_bass said:

The consequences will be dire. IF AI does become truly intelligent, we're likely buggered. The absolutely true fact that humans are a HUGELY negative force on the planet will be our undoing IF AI becomes intelligent to the point of understanding that to protect the planet and all other species on it humans must go. 

 

Skynet had a valid point.

[JoeEvans]

You do read a lot of stuff online about how AI is going to take everyone's jobs, but that might be because the jobs it will definitely take will be the ones that involve writing poorly-researched web articles for very little money.

[TimR]

Computers and robots were going to take everyone's jobs in the 80s. 

 

Unfortunately they didn't and we all still have to go to work. 

[wateroftyne]

15 minutes ago, TimR said:

Computers and robots were going to take everyone's jobs in the 80s. 

 

Unfortunately they didn't and we all still have to go to work. 

The technology’s come on a bit since the ZX81, tho.

[ezbass]

All this focus on AI, where’s my flippin’ hoverboard? 😡

[lurksalot]

33 minutes ago, JoeEvans said:

You do read a lot of stuff online about how AI is going to take everyone's jobs, but that might be because the jobs it will definitely take will be the ones that involve writing poorly-researched web articles for very little money.

A friend explained that he used chatgp to verify that he was submitting both his wife and son’s tax return correctly.

he had previously paid an accountant but the AI gave him the confidence to do it himself.

 

[Geek99]

They’ve been confidently predicting the end of programming since 1985 at least. I’m still not sure it’s any nearer. 

[tauzero]

8 minutes ago, Geek99 said:

They’ve been confidently predicting the end of programming since 1985 at least. I’m still not sure it’s any nearer. 

 

1981 - a program called "The Last One" was released. It would supposedly be the last program anyone would have to use as it would generate all the programs in the world.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_One_(software)

[TimR]

49 minutes ago, wateroftyne said:

The technology’s come on a bit since the ZX81, tho.

 

Yes. And I'm still working. 

 

Although to be fair my last 3 call outs have been to turn machines off and back on again. 

[binky_bass]

10 minutes ago, TimR said:

 

Yes. And I'm still working. 

 

Although to be fair my last 3 call outs have been to turn machines off and back on again. 

See... if humans turn Skynet off all AI needs to do is call you to turn it back on again.