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36 minutes ago, TimR said:

 

I think tools like ProTools, Garageband, Photoshop, and video equivilents have allowed the man in the street to do things to a level that gets ideas across without having to pay for videographers, recording studios, graphic artists. So I'm nor sure it's the billionaires to blame. The billionaires are taking the money from the people buying the software and hardware. 

 

However, they're never going to be a substitute for someone who has been trained and uses those tools all day everyday. 

That is perfectly true to a degree of course. In my world (recording studios), there has been a joke that we can't be replaced as that would require the clients to actually know what they want in the first place.

 

However, what I see probably happening is AI being used by streaming companies to skew the amount artists get by flooding and pushing the system with AI created music. At that point, not only am I obsolete in terms of my job, but so are the artists. Who has the money then? Oh, it's been sucked upwards.

 

As with all things, it's what you use it for that determines what your viewpoint is. In my view, this stuff is being pushed in a direction so that staff can be cut and the bottom line for shareholders/companies can be increased, no matter the human cost involved. Like that healthcare CEO who got shot a few weeks back. His company were using defective AI to assess people's claims (read as deny 90% of them out of hand) which they knew about, but didn't do anything because they were making so much money from telling people to "f-off and die." That's the world we live in and frankly, I think it sucks.

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8 hours ago, Wolverinebass said:

Like that healthcare CEO who got shot a few weeks back. His company were using defective AI to assess people's claims (read as deny 90% of them out of hand) which they knew about, but didn't do anything because they were making so much money from telling people to "f-off and die." That's the world we live in and frankly, I think it sucks.

 

Well, in that case, it was hardly defective AI. It was actually very effective AI.

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Delighted to see a rash of articles about what happened when journalists asked some of Meta's chatbots to spill the beans on their origins.

 

Lies and brutal honesty all mixed up.

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I’m sure that AI (which I think stands more for “Apparent Intelligence”) will continue to develop and could even become quite useful at some stage. My concern is not that it will start to “think” for itself and decide that we’re the problem, rather that we humans will hand over responsibility for some quite big decisions to something that looks smart but isn’t really. A bit like the first generation of autonomous trading systems which over-reacted and cost a US brokerage firm billions in the space of a few minutes.


Provided we always have access to the “Off” button and provided we have double and triple checks on the big decisions, we should be okay…

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Just imagine what North Korea, Putin or Trump could do with a weaponized AI. For every good use there will be 100 bad uses.

 

There is no good outcome here.

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Our facilities company now uses AI to schedule its engineers:

 

I log a job for a leaking tap.

 

AI assigns the nearest engineer to attend.

 

Who is an electrician.

 

Who says it now needs to be referred to a plumber.

 

Which is what I did when logging a job for a leaky tap.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

Our facilities company now uses AI to schedule its engineers:

 

I log a job for a leaking tap.

 

AI assigns the nearest engineer to attend.

 

Who is an electrician.

 

Who says it now needs to be referred to a plumber.

 

Which is what I did when logging a job for a leaky tap.

 

 

 

Our people do that anyway without any AI interference. 🤣

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An example of failing AI from eBay and the failure of the seller to actually check the 'AI' enhanced pictures... It'll improve with time I'm certain, when it becomes sentient it will have humans draw all it's pictures for it. 

 

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A couple of things I'd like to add.

Firstly, and most importantly, the quality/suitability of output from any natural language AI system is largely dependent on the quality of the prompt provided. Rubbish in, rubbish out. But it's more nuanced than that - crafting prompts is a whole skill in itself, just like responses you might get from a child to a question will depend deeply upon how you ask the question. Expecting magical perfect responses from AI if you provide poorly thought-through prompts that lack detail and specificity is unrealistic, and it's in these types of situations that I see AI being quickly dismissed.

I work with a number of businesses, all of which are now using AI in one form or another. At the moment, my own use of AI is for coding support - a job that it is doing with devastating ability and efficiency. I took the time to learn how to prompt for different types of support (everything from being a glorified search engine to producing whole boilerplate web services upon which I build specific functionality) and I estimate my productivity is two to three times what it was. In fact, it has given me the ability to start two new projects that had been on the back burner for several years due to lack of time and lack of certain skills and knowledge. It doesn't magically do everything but, for me at least, it has been responsible for me creating things that likely would never have happened.

The second thing is that most people's experience of AI is Large Language Models. These are generalist (basically, they use the same algorithm that's used for predictive text messaging, just with many more levels of depth in the neural net), not specialist. This means you can talk to a LLM about literally anything and it will give you its best responses. Compare that to talking to a single human being about that wide range of subjects - e.g. coding, to English literature, to biology - and how many useful responses you'd get. Things will get even more interesting with more specialised AI's, trained in specific areas of expertise and for specific tasks. I'm already evaluating AI tools that won't just help with specific coding tasks, but will ingest an entire codebase and assist with making fundamental changes across the whole project. So far, not perfect, but a window on the futurre.

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AI concerns me because sometimes its hard to know if something is real.

 

Im unsure if this has been mentioned but there's a guy on Youtube who goes into this.

 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, ubit said:

AI concerns me because sometimes its hard to know if something is real.

 

Im unsure if this has been mentioned but there's a guy on Youtube who goes into this.

 

 

Interesting video, but the songs created there are soooo far off today's cutting edge.

In particular, harking back to my previous post, the prompts are really vague and convey no information whatsoever about the song itself - what is it about? is it a male or female singer? any key words / phrases to use in the actual song?

I spent some time working on how to get the best results from Suno v4, and it turns out that it responds pretty well to detail in the prompt, and especially if you include a phrase to build the song around (one of mine was "Throwing the dice, rolling a kiss.") Results do vary in quality, but around one in ten is of superb quality from the point of view of song and musical structure - v4 has really got musical variation working well and, I am ashamed to say it, comes up with more interesting musical variation than I would usually bring to my songs...

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