lemmywinks Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) Just nipped out to get some gecko food and passed a Money Traders, had a look in as last time they had this cab advertised at £40 but I left it as it was 4ohms so not much use to me (or my mate who already has one 8ohm version). Anyway I spotted it in a corner with a £19.99 price tag so bought it, can't leave it there for that price! Not even sure if it works yet Edited January 5 by lemmywinks 1 Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 Just tested it. It does not work. Sounds like a million wasps after curry night. 1 Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 I think I may have found why it doesn't work 3 1 Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 (edited) The driver is an Eminence Kappa Pro 10-A, I take it this is a replacement? Anybody got an idea of a compatible driver for this cab? Edited January 5 by lemmywinks Quote
Pea Turgh Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Even without the driver that’s a good deal - couldn’t buy the wood and hardware for that! 2 Quote
Skybone Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Sounds like a phone call to Ashdown is required tomorrow. Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, Pea Turgh said: Even without the driver that’s a good deal - couldn’t buy the wood and hardware for that! Yeah that's what I was thinking, I don't really need it but I have a mate who has one (8ohm version) with a Gnome head and it would be nice to get it working so he can have a mini stack of doom. I actually contacted Ashdown about compatible 8ohm drivers a while ago when I first saw it at £40, they said the following: "The Mi 10 had a twin cone speaker no longer available buut it can be replaced by a dood single cone 10” such as a pulse 10 etc " 1 Quote
Downunderwonder Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Check the design notes supplied by Eminence for the Kappa. It's a bit of a sledgehammer for that little box. Might be better to run it sealed. You could also check if your mate's one has had a substitution. Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 12 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: Check the design notes supplied by Eminence for the Kappa. It's a bit of a sledgehammer for that little box. Might be better to run it sealed. You could also check if your mate's one has had a substitution. The Kappa is goosed, check those pictures above out! Pretty much all of the paper cone is torn and it's covered in miscellaneous goop. I'm guessing the original owner blew the stock driver, found a knackered random 10" driver on eBay, covered it in glue for a genius fix and was surprised his masterplan didn't work. Quote
Downunderwonder Posted January 5 Posted January 5 26 minutes ago, lemmywinks said: The Kappa is goosed, check those pictures above out! Pretty much all of the paper cone is torn and it's covered in miscellaneous goop. I'm guessing the original owner blew the stock driver, found a knackered random 10" driver on eBay, covered it in glue for a genius fix and was surprised his masterplan didn't work. I thought you were considering Round2 with a new one. Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 5 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: I thought you were considering Round2 with a new one. Won't be a Kappa if I do keep hold of it and find a replacement driver, they're pretty expensive here. No idea if they work in that box anyway. There's a used Pulse 10 on eBay at the moment, I sent Ashdown another email asking for T/S parameters of the original driver and/or the cab volume and port dimensions so maybe there's a cost effective replacement available, driver prices seem to have gone crazy in the last few years. Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 48 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: Reconing the Kappa might be cost effective. Just had a look and a recone kit is £85, I'm not able to do the work myself so it probably wouldn't be workable for a £133 driver. These were cheap cabs to begin with (I think my mate paid £110 for his used) so ideally something under £50 would be suitable, I'll wait and see what Ashdown say, hopefully a used Beta or something like that will be ok. 1 Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 Well it's temporarily up and running, I have a spare 4ohm Celestion BN10 300S neodimium driver knocking around that I bought ages ago and never found a permanent use for so I stuck that in there. Not heard back from Ashdown yet but they did previously recommend the Eminence Beta as a replacement for these so I'll hunt down a used one in time then give this cab to my mate. Tbh I mainly took the old driver out so it was easier to shift from room to room! The BN10 300S sounds as good in this cab as it has in anything else I've used it in, which is to say it's acceptable and doesn't like much low end. Crazy mid response though. 1 Quote
tauzero Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Might be worth looking at a Faital driver like the 10FE200, 10FE300, 10FE400. Quote
Phil Starr Posted January 9 Posted January 9 The Celestion Pulse 10 Ashdown recommended is a great little speaker, it's the driver we recommended in the BassChat 110T @stevie designed a couple of years back. 2 Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 21 minutes ago, Phil Starr said: The Celestion Pulse 10 Ashdown recommended is a great little speaker, it's the driver we recommended in the BassChat 110T @stevie designed a couple of years back. Thanks, I'll have a chat with my mate at the weekend to see how much he wants to put into it and go from there. Realistically I'll most likely be holding onto it for a while to see if a well priced used driver comes up for sale and if there's no joy I'll just stick it in the classifieds for what I paid for it. Are knackered drivers of use to anybody btw? I have the shredded Kappa from this cab and also a dead Deltalite 10" sat in storage here that will be landfill bound soon. Quote
David Morison Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Hi, Not quite as smooth as the Pulse 10, the Beyma 10CMV2 looks quite good for a small cab, and is ~20 quid cheaper, FWIW. 1 Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 Thanks. I'll pass the infomation on to my mate at the weekend who is most likely going to end up with this cab as I have no real use for it, see how much he wants to put into it. If he's not interested and I can't find a cheap used driver I'll stick it in the Marketplace for what I paid. Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 Spotted an Eminence ME10-1008, anybody know about these? Internet seems to suggest they're an older or OEM Beta or Delta, can't find much about them. Quote
Phil Starr Posted January 9 Posted January 9 I had some failures of that generation of Eminence drivers (which hasn't been true of the current range, I'm not knocking Eminence generally) I think they are from the late 70's early 80's so too long in the tooth to buy as a replacement 1 Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, Phil Starr said: I had some failures of that generation of Eminence drivers (which hasn't been true of the current range, I'm not knocking Eminence generally) I think they are from the late 70's early 80's so too long in the tooth to buy as a replacement Yeah it did look old old. I'll see what my mate says about the Celestion Pulse, there's one on eBay he can stick a cheeky offer on. I did try the cab again this afternoon loaded with the BN10-300S, moved it into the back room and got a bit more distance between it and myself. It took a 100hz boost from the amp surprisingly well at volume, much better than when I briefly tested it the other day. If my mate doesn't want to chuck money at it I'll either sell it as it is or keep hold of it. Quote
lemmywinks Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 These were the ME10 I was looking at btw @Phil Starr, the magnets looked similar to my other bass drivers but that's as far as my speaker knowledge goes. The serial number is 67-97320161 so I assumed the 97 part would be the year of manufacture: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335761107672 Quote
Phil Starr Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, lemmywinks said: These were the ME10 I was looking at btw @Phil Starr, the magnets looked similar to my other bass drivers but that's as far as my speaker knowledge goes. The serial number is 67-97320161 so I assumed the 97 part would be the year of manufacture: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335761107672 Yep those are the ones, I had some 12's Mine had aluminium voice coils and the aluminium wire corroded creating a dry joint leading to speaker failure. Your BN10-300 is a much better speaker and quite expensive hence recommending the Pulse 10. I've used both. You can get all the specs for these speakers so if you want to fit anything like these we can do the calculations and you can potentially tweak the cab to match the speaker Edited January 10 by Phil Starr 1 1 Quote
Phil Starr Posted January 10 Posted January 10 I've had a quick look and the cab is roughly 25-28 litres and my guess is tuned to 50Hz. If you want to measure the internal dimensions of the cab and the port dimensions I can check that for you. That is typical for a 10" cab so probably a range of speakers will fit and work OK. I can do a quick check and identify any complete mis-matches with the drivers suggested if you give me those dimensions 1 Quote
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