Entwistle (the other one)

[bremen]

I have Entwistle neodymium pickups in my Precision and just done my first rehearsal with them. They are monstrous. Love them. Dirtier than the quarter pounders they replace.

 

Wasn't all easy though. As others have noted, they are physically very deep- the pole pieces protrude a long way out the back, and some routing was called for. And the ears are bigger than any other P pickup I've met so the pickguard needed modded. Why they chose to depart from a well established standard I have no idea. Must have put a few people off buying a great sounding and very affordable item.

 

The other niggle was: the pole pieces weren't grounded so there was hum pickup, and a LOT of noise if you touch them. Easily fixed by wrapping tinned copper wire round the back, but again this surely must have disappointed some customers.

 

But they do sound fantastic.

[Bassman68]

I’ve just got one for a bitsa P-bass I’ve been knocking up.

It’s an immense sounding pickup but I’ve experienced the same as yourself, having to mod the scratchplate etc.

I also found it easier to mount the pickup with screws rather than foam underneath due to the extra depth of the poles.

The slight noise doesn’t bother me as I use a wireless, so no grounding issues when played live..

Still considering an EMG GZR at some point but will see how it goes over the next few months..

[neepheid]

I've got one waiting to go in a bass which is on back order.  Glad to hear positive things about the sound, and for the warnings about potential pitfalls (which sound like they're not dealbreakers).

[kodiakblair]

Long time fan of Entwistle neodymium pickups.

 

Loud AF, don't lose the mids and they don't have a stupid name designed to attract impressionable Americans 😁

 

I've fitted plenty of them over the years. 

 

Pickup covers too big. Covers can be swapped, you just pop them off. Either reuse the one from your old pickup or £3 from eBay 👍

 

Poles too long. Generally not an issue if you're replacing a ceramic mag pickup or as @Bassman68 mentioned use springs instead of foam.

Should the pickup cavity be particularly shallow, you'll want a pencil, some masking tape and a drill. Masking tape goes in the cavity, rub the pencil on the bottom of the poles then press the pickup into the cavity. You'll have a line of dots showing where the poles will land, use the drill and make holes 🙂 Pickup will now drop in nicely and you won't have made the cavity any deeper. 

[bremen]

What are the Jazz pickups like?

 

Loving the P. Just done a rehearsal with the other band, a horrible electropunk country&metal outfit, and it really fits.

[kodiakblair]

1 hour ago, bremen said:

What are the Jazz pickups like?

Much the same.

 

Pickup shell discrepancies, loud AF, potential foam/shallow cavity issue.

 

The output from Entwistle neos really is alarming 😁

 

My Peavey Ellefson sig came with a PJ set of Duncan QPs. Took  a wee screenshot of an Audacity snippet.

 

 

This was my other Peavey Ellefson Zodiac with the Duncans replaced by Entwistle PJ set.

 

[MichaelDean]

I've got a PJ set that came stock in a Revelation bass that I picked up dirt cheap. They are indeed pretty hot. Doesn't feel like there's too much treble, but in a good way. Still plenty of detail but without being hi-fi. They record nicely too. 

 

My only con is the font used for the logo. Just looks quite dated to me. Could probably do something about it if I decided it really bugged me though!

 

[bremen]

 

23 minutes ago, MichaelDean said:

 

 

My only con is the font used for the logo.

 

 

Solve two problems at once - replace the oversized, dated-fontsed covers with unbranded, standard covers!

[kodiakblair]

6 hours ago, bremen said:

 

Solve two problems at once - replace the oversized, dated-fontsed covers with unbranded, standard covers!

Or just rub the logo off, it's only painted on 😃

 

Thread jogged my memory about this Revelation, really regret selling that one 😞

 

[MichaelDean]

57 minutes ago, kodiakblair said:

Or just rub the logo off, it's only painted on 😃

 

Thread jogged my memory about this Revelation, really regret selling that one 😞

 

I really like the look of those. I feel like the double p configuration isn't common enough. 

[bremen]

9 hours ago, MichaelDean said:

I really like the look of those. I feel like the double p configuration isn't common enough. 

Isn't there a huge difference in tone between A,E and D,G?

[MichaelDean]

2 hours ago, bremen said:

Isn't there a huge difference in tone between A,E and D,G?

I don't know.  Never played that configuration. I like the way it looks though! 😅

[Phil Starr]

On 16/01/2025 at 17:42, bremen said:

I have Entwistle neodymium pickups in my Precision and just done my first rehearsal with them. They are monstrous. Love them. Dirtier than the quarter pounders they replace.

 

Wasn't all easy though. As others have noted, they are physically very deep- the pole pieces protrude a long way out the back, and some routing was called for. And the ears are bigger than any other P pickup I've met so the pickguard needed modded. Why they chose to depart from a well established standard I have no idea. Must have put a few people off buying a great sounding and very affordable item.

 

The other niggle was: the pole pieces weren't grounded so there was hum pickup, and a LOT of noise if you touch them. Easily fixed by wrapping tinned copper wire round the back, but again this surely must have disappointed some customers.

 

But they do sound fantastic.

Thanks for this, I will take it as a prod to get me moving on fitting a pair I've had laying around for a few years, I picked them up cheap and loved the idea of neo but the fitting got lost in the hundres and one other things I waste my time with