Bass Direct Posted January 25 Posted January 25 12 hours ago, AndyTravis said: Frank Bello… Fender ESP Spector The new Spector is cack too… Jeff Berlin Peavey Dean Cort Brian Bromberg Peavey Dean Kiesel the same bass 3 ways… Bunny Brunel Gibson Carvin ESP Lee Sklar Gibson Warwick Dingwall imagine if Jaco had lived - he would’ve been an Endorsement dream… Mark King Jaydee Pangborn Status GB Fender Alembic Trace Elliot Ashdown TC Electronic Markbass who can blame them if it’s a means of income… I think it's worth mentioning that Mark has had signature models but not with all of the brands you mention and in a different way to some... Jaydee (Playing them before it became a signature model) Alembic (Same deal, and his basses were totally different to the signature models and sound totally different too) Status (The Kingbass was designed by him and Rob after working together for YEARS) Pangborn (Never a signature model) GB (Never a sig) Fender (Very limited run) Trace Elliot (No signature model products, unless you count the strings that were produced for a little while) Ashdown (Signature product but basically an old Trace head with some bits stripped out) TC (Unless you are counting signature toneprints haha, no products) Markbass (No signature product) Quote
Wolverinebass Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Ultimately, nobody cares about what a particular bass player uses unless you're a fan. Dingwall and Darkglass have built empires off Nolly Getgood's back. Mark King probably put Rob Green's unborn great grandkids though university the amount of signature stuff he did with them. It was something that I found frustrating as for every new tour/anniversary/album a new Kingbass would appear. How amazing. What innovation. Oh, so aside from the paramatrix circuit, nothing was really new and just options you could choose. Maybe do a new model? Maybe replace the buzzard with something similar? No. Endless variants of the same. Ashdown have now went after anybody it appears. Does anyone really think a standard RM800 with "Rex" on it will sell well? Or the standard ABM with some bad graffiti front panel with "Shavo" on it? Good luck with that. That's before you get to the signature pedals which are mostly truly terrible. Quote
Hellzero Posted January 25 Posted January 25 14 hours ago, itu said: Hellborg: - Wal double neck, and a fretted one - 27 fret bass (Italian Reccanati?) - Status (36 V circuitry) - Wechter - Warwick - amps and cabs like TE, EBS, Warwick... He's obviously been searching for the perfect sound. The instruments were made by the brand named Sound of Sweden, which was a branch of FBT that made the Hellborg amp line too. You forgot the Dogal Hellborg Perfect Pitch Signature strings @itu. 😉 1 Quote
PinkMohawk Posted January 25 Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, Wolverinebass said: Ultimately, nobody cares about what a particular bass player uses unless you're a fan. Dingwall and Darkglass have built empires off Nolly Getgood's back. Mark King probably put Rob Green's unborn great grandkids though university the amount of signature stuff he did with them. It was something that I found frustrating as for every new tour/anniversary/album a new Kingbass would appear. How amazing. What innovation. Oh, so aside from the paramatrix circuit, nothing was really new and just options you could choose. Maybe do a new model? Maybe replace the buzzard with something similar? No. Endless variants of the same. Ashdown have now went after anybody it appears. Does anyone really think a standard RM800 with "Rex" on it will sell well? Or the standard ABM with some bad graffiti front panel with "Shavo" on it? Good luck with that. That's before you get to the signature pedals which are mostly truly terrible. Really is an unfortunate truth that too much signature gear is just 'stock model with name attached'. To my (admittedly limited) knowledge, a lot of the lower level signature gear, the company approaches an artist and says "Hey, pick a model, make a couple changes and we'll stick your name on it" (Rob Arnold, Chimaira guitarist stated as much in one of his videos when he discussed his first ESP signature) so it's kind of understandable, but at the same time the only really interesting signature gear comes from an actual collaboration between the artist and company in the design stages. I really wish more companies would allow artists a free hand to get weird and make something really interesting. Fender's Roscoe Beck model or even their brief brush with something much more weird when they made 2 prototypes for Tye Zamora, then Alien Ant Farm bassist. 1 Quote
Hellzero Posted January 25 Posted January 25 @Beer of the Bass I forgot the best PIL album called Album or CD depending the support. Quote
tauzero Posted January 25 Posted January 25 18 minutes ago, Hellzero said: So Jonas Hellborg gets the glittering price... He played for Simple Minds? 1 Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted Saturday at 17:40 Posted Saturday at 17:40 3 hours ago, Hellzero said: @Beer of the Bass I forgot the best PIL album called Album or CD depending the support. Hmm, yeah, now I look him up he's worked with a lot of people, but he's definitely a bit of a "deep cut" figure in the scene. Quote
ezbass Posted Saturday at 17:42 Posted Saturday at 17:42 Rocco Prestia had a goodly number of signature products, both basses and amps. Quote
WAYNESWORLD Posted Saturday at 18:39 Posted Saturday at 18:39 (edited) Didn’t read before reply Edited Saturday at 19:24 by WAYNESWORLD Quote
Terry M. Posted Saturday at 19:01 Posted Saturday at 19:01 21 minutes ago, WAYNESWORLD said: Marcus Miller. The OP listed him as an exception ☺️ Quote
Terry M. Posted Saturday at 19:34 Posted Saturday at 19:34 Maybe not the most prolific but Doug Wimbish has had flirtations with Ibanez and currently Spector. Not sure who else to be honest. Maybe that was it. Quote
SteveXFR Posted Saturday at 19:50 Posted Saturday at 19:50 5 hours ago, Wolverinebass said: Dingwall and Darkglass have built empires off Nolly Getgood's back. Have they? Most of the bassists using those products use them just because they cut through really heavy guitars and give really good clarity with very low tunings. I've never actually known a metal musician who's a fan of Periphery. Quote
PinkMohawk Posted Saturday at 19:59 Posted Saturday at 19:59 6 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: Have they? Most of the bassists using those products use them just because they cut through really heavy guitars and give really good clarity with very low tunings. I've never actually known a metal musician who's a fan of Periphery. They might not be a fan of the music, but I think we'd be fooling ourselves if we didn't give Nolly the props for making *that* djent bass tone popular. The Dingwall/Darkglass combo is ubiquitous because most metal bassists are trying to ape his tone and the way it cuts. Quote
SteveXFR Posted Saturday at 20:02 Posted Saturday at 20:02 2 minutes ago, PinkMohawk said: They might not be a fan of the music, but I think we'd be fooling ourselves if we didn't give Nolly the props for making *that* djent bass tone popular. The Dingwall/Darkglass combo is ubiquitous because most metal bassists are trying to ape his tone and the way it cuts. That sound predates nolly by several years Quote
PinkMohawk Posted Saturday at 20:23 Posted Saturday at 20:23 18 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: That sound predates nolly by several years I didn't say he made it, just that he made it as popular as it is now. Remember that he's not just a bassist, he's a producer/engineer too, he's had his hands on plenty of other records and been influencing a lot of other producers and engineers. Quote
Doctor J Posted Sunday at 06:59 Posted Sunday at 06:59 I had heard it a lot before I ever heard it from him, it's not as if it was rare before he adopted it too. Quote
Hellzero Posted Monday at 14:50 Posted Monday at 14:50 6 minutes ago, BigRedX said: Bootsy Peter Hook I think you're confusing signature with gear used, especially for Peter Hook whose one and only signature gear to date is his Yamaha model, but I may be totally wrong... Quote
BigRedX Posted Monday at 15:03 Posted Monday at 15:03 Peter Hook has a whole range of "signature" instruments from Eastwood derived from his Shergold Marathon 6-string bass. Bootsy seems to have basically the same thing over and over again but from different manufacturers (although IIRC there was a Bootsy Warwick that wasn't star shaped). Quote
Hellzero Posted Monday at 15:13 Posted Monday at 15:13 8 minutes ago, BigRedX said: Peter Hook has a whole range of "signature" instruments from Eastwood derived from his Shergold Marathon 6-string bass. The Eastwood models are no signature, but derived from, so there's only one Yamaha signature bass and an Elite signature set of strings. A tad little short for this thread. Definitely a confusion between signature and gear used. 1 Quote
Bilbo Posted Monday at 15:43 Posted Monday at 15:43 (edited) Jeff Berlin had the Peavey Palladium, the Dean Jeff Berlin and now the Cort Rithmic IV and V. Then there was the Markbass CMD 151P and the Markbass Jeff Berlin Players Combo. It is not surprising that people who are high profile are having these instruments. It's another income stream. The thing that gets me is how Fender seems to be able to just paint a Jazz a different colour, add anyone's name to it and double the price. Edited Monday at 15:44 by Bilbo Quote
Terry M. Posted Monday at 16:11 Posted Monday at 16:11 25 minutes ago, Bilbo said: The thing that gets me is how Fender seems to be able to just paint a Jazz a different colour, add anyone's name to it and double the price. If only they stopped at the Jazz 🫣 1 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted Monday at 17:11 Posted Monday at 17:11 On 25/01/2025 at 13:45, Bass Direct said: I think it's worth mentioning that Mark has had signature models but not with all of the brands you mention and in a different way to some... Jaydee (Playing them before it became a signature model) Alembic (Same deal, and his basses were totally different to the signature models and sound totally different too) Status (The Kingbass was designed by him and Rob after working together for YEARS) Pangborn (Never a signature model) GB (Never a sig) Fender (Very limited run) Trace Elliot (No signature model products, unless you count the strings that were produced for a little while) Ashdown (Signature product but basically an old Trace head with some bits stripped out) TC (Unless you are counting signature toneprints haha, no products) Markbass (No signature product) Point taken - he’s definitely had his name on a few bits though…as someone else mentioned he’s definitely helped sell a lot of gear. I wish him (and any others) well on it - any musician making money is doing better than me - I think my distrokid earnings are at about £30 this year… Quote
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