Overpriced Jap Crap

[kevbass]

if you've got too much money, you could waste it on this

[url="http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1970s-ELGER-JAZZ-BASS-Plays-Sounds-GREAT-NrMnt_W0QQitemZ290319207535QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item43985f8c6f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50"]http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1970s-ELGER-JA...%3A3%7C294%3A50[/url]

[Kongo]

Yeah ok that is crap...I question the pickup and the cheap tuners...I HATE those ones that look decent from the peg head...but behind they are the cheap oblong cased version...WHich, BTW are actually held on with 2 screws not 4, 2 are dummies...go ahead, unscrew some and have a look...CHEEEEEEEAP!!!

[Bassassin]

Well overpriced but not crap. Not authentic by any stretch of the imagination but of interest to JapCrapologists. Elger was the original US importer of Ibanez & later became Hoshino US after being taken over by Ibanez's Japanese parent company.

This bass is an early (pre '75) Fujigen jazz copy & is identical to the Ibanez 2365B. Those pickups are designed to be hidden under the ashtrays this would have originally had, & despite the appearance are very powerful & punchy - that's one in the fireglo Rick copy in my avatar. The tuners were pretty much standard on every early 70s Jap bass. They do look horrid but are not too bad - you'll find them used on 70s Shergolds, interestingly. Not sure where the idea that they're only held on by only 2 screws comes from - they have four, none of which are "dummies".

To me the most odd thing about this ad is the seller's failure to play the Ibanez card, like they usually do. Down to ignorance, I suppose, but for once it would nearly be justified!

Jon.

Edited June 5, 2009 by Bassassin

[steve-soar]

The deep mellow tones of plywood, you can't beat them, probably best to set it on fire and be done with it.

[yorick]

I'm sure i had one of those in the early eighties from Musical Excuses for £30...... and $200 shipping????????????????

[iamapirate]

the first picture looked ok, then i saw the headstock.... urrgh...

[Bassassin]

[quote name='steve-soar' post='506159' date='Jun 5 2009, 10:23 AM']The deep mellow tones of plywood, you can't beat them, probably best to set it on fire and be done with it.[/quote]
It's not plywood. These have a sandwich body construction, probably basswood, with ash veneers front & back. The dark oversprays are to conceal the laminate joins but it ain't ply.

Such a lot of ill-informed bigotry in this thread.

Anyway, this is pretty much the same bass branded Antoria:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=140324776699"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=140324776699[/url]

Slight differences in the hardware & neck construction - this one's very early, with the chrome trc & black button tuners, probably around 1971.

J.

[steve-soar]

Apologies, from an ill-informed bigot.

[Protium]

[quote name='Kongo' post='506024' date='Jun 5 2009, 01:22 AM']Yeah ok that is crap...I question the pickup and the cheap tuners...I HATE those ones that look decent from the peg head...but behind they are the cheap oblong cased version...WHich, BTW are actually held on with 2 screws not 4, 2 are dummies...go ahead, unscrew some and have a look...CHEEEEEEEAP!!![/quote]

Just thought I'd add that mine are held on by 4 screws cheers

[Bassassin]

[quote name='steve-soar' post='506560' date='Jun 5 2009, 06:59 PM']Apologies, from an ill-informed bigot.[/quote]
Graciously accepted, sir!

J.

[steve-soar]

[geoffbyrne]

I've got an identical pickguard to the above, if anyone's interested....

G.