solo4652 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Got to learn this song. Loads of covers out there. Here are three bass covers. Which do you prefer? Just talking about the bass playing, not the singing or arrangement or anything else. Clear winner for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_FabfGxYvM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE16Dc2JB3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWFKio5NBV8 1 Quote
ped Posted February 2 Posted February 2 First one. Funk is the space in between the notes. I’d still be tempted to pop some of the octaves though! 1 Quote
Woodinblack Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Pretty much the same thoughts here, the feel of the first one with a bit more decoration, but not enough to dominate the song Quote
Wombat Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Aye, whenever I’ve played that I’ve gone with one. The ‘space’ makes the song. That’s not saying there isn’t room for a few licks though! Quote
Phil Starr Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) What a great problem to have It's made my morning just listening to my favourite version; the Phoebe Snow one. I haven't heard it for years but it was a favourite of mine as a mobile DJ back in the 70's I guess my approach would be to learn a very basic version probably like the first one then take that to rehearsal and listen to what the singer does with the song and just let it grow. I want to see the rest of your set list now Edited February 2 by Phil Starr 2 Quote
PaulThePlug Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Shaky Ground... Thought it was Gonna be Green Door! 1 Quote
Len_derby Posted February 2 Posted February 2 My advice would be to not invest too much time in learning a particular arrangement until you know how the rest of the band play it. Of course, you may know that already. Several times I’ve learned the bass line for a song only to have to change it because it doesn’t work with how the band play it. For example, drummer can’t or won’t play it as recorded or guitarist plays ‘different’ chords. 4 Quote
Woodinblack Posted February 2 Posted February 2 I tend to learn the structure of the song. 20 gigs in it is going to sound pretty different anyway! 1 Quote
Beedster Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, ped said: First one. Funk is the space in between the notes. I’d still be tempted to pop some of the octaves though! 100% this, the other two are way too showy 👍 Quote
Paul S Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Here's another stripped back bass but with a rockier feel - Bernie Marsden's cover. 1 Quote
franzbassist Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Paul S said: Here's another stripped back bass but with a rockier feel - Bernie Marsden's cover. I was going to suggest this one too, so here's Bernie's BBC Friday Rock Show version as well: Edited February 2 by franzbassist 3 Quote
chris_b Posted February 2 Posted February 2 I didn't like the versions played by the "bass cover guys". They were clunky and didn't groove. IMO they are not a basis for learning anything. Listen to the original Delbert and Temptations versions if you want the real bass lines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq6OYSKIxxk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3x5aHMi8y0 3 Quote
Happy Jack Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Yup, first version all the way. That line works, and it grooves, and - best of all - it doesn't do that stupid slappy look-at-me thing. 1 Quote
peteb Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 5 hours ago, solo4652 said: Got to learn this song. Loads of covers out there. Here are three bass covers. Which do you prefer? Just talking about the bass playing, not the singing or arrangement or anything else. Clear winner for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_FabfGxYvM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE16Dc2JB3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWFKio5NBV8 Out of those three, definitely the first one - the other two are all the place! I've never heard the Bernie Marsden version before, but that's pretty close to what I've always played whenever I've had to do SG over the years. Edited February 2 by peteb Quote
lowdown Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, chris_b said: I didn't like the versions played by the "bass cover guys". They were clunky and didn't groove. IMO they are not a basis for learning anything. Listen to the original Delbert and Temptations versions if you want the real bass lines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq6OYSKIxxk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3x5aHMi8y0 My thoughts as well. Quote
Terry M. Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) I liked them all but found the 2nd link a little more exciting than the others. I appreciate thumpin and plucking (the original term for the technique) isn't for everybody but I'm not sure it's fair to call it stupid. Edited February 3 by Terry M. 1 Quote
EMG456 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Terry M. said: I liked them all but found the 2nd link a little more exciting than the others. I appreciate thumpin and plucking (the original term for the technique) isn't for everybody but I'm not sure it's fair to call it stupid. Aye! Welcome to Basschat! My thoughts: #1 I would die of boredom if I had to play exactly what that guy played throughout the entire song. He's playing it like a midi sequencer backing track! To be fair, his transcription is the sort of part you might be given on a dep gig so it's a good starting point to go from. #2 It's her band and a vehicle for whatever she wants it to be so she calls the shots. I liked it and on the subject of funky spaces, note that she tones it down for the singing ( that might well be for "technical reasons") and she also has whole measures where the bass completely drops out. #3 Err... No. I liked the Bernie Marsden version - a few bits of four on the floor dropped in amongst the funk - very Climax Blues Band. Delbert McClinton- nice. The original Temptations version - now we are talking! He's *playing* it from the heart, not just reproducing a part and you can hear that in it. Also ironically, unless I'm very much mistaken, the first bass you hear in the track comes in at the end of the fourth bar just before the drums and is entirely a slap/pop part. The main foundation part also uses a pop on the Octave E hammer-on albeit the tone is much more Chuck Rainey than Marcus Miller. Baack to sleep now. Quote
Terry M. Posted February 3 Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, EMG456 said: Aye! Welcome to Basschat! My thoughts: #1 I would die of boredom if I had to play exactly what that guy played throughout the entire song. He's playing it like a midi sequencer backing track! To be fair, his transcription is the sort of part you might be given on a dep gig so it's a good starting point to go from. #2 It's her band and a vehicle for whatever she wants it to be so she calls the shots. I liked it and on the subject of funky spaces, note that she tones it down for the singing ( that might well be for "technical reasons") and she also has whole measures where the bass completely drops out. #3 Err... No. I liked the Bernie Marsden version - a few bits of four on the floor dropped in amongst the funk - very Climax Blues Band. Delbert McClinton- nice. The original Temptations version - now we are talking! He's *playing* it from the heart, not just reproducing a part and you can hear that in it. Also ironically, unless I'm very much mistaken, the first bass you hear in the track comes in at the end of the fourth bar just before the drums and is entirely a slap/pop part. The main foundation part also uses a pop on the Octave E hammer-on albeit the tone is much more Chuck Rainey than Marcus Miller. Baack to sleep now. This is a fair analysis. I liked the 3rd YouTube link but can objectively see how it won't appeal to everybody. It's number 2 for me of the 3 and your take on it is pretty accurate to me. Number 1,while it appealed to several individuals on here and was played well,just didn't excite me. And yes ironically there is a slap/pop section on the original 😊 Quote
Woodinblack Posted February 3 Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Terry M. said: I liked them all but found the 2nd link a little more exciting than the others. I appreciate thumpin and plucking (the original term for the technique) isn't for everybody but I'm not sure it's fair to call it stupid. I wouldn't have called it stupid, it was clever and required skill although I found it dull to the point of wanting the song to start, actually less exciting than the first one, (which wasn't exciting at all, but more fitting). It was good for a bass demo, but not good for a song. The 3rd one sounded like you had just attended a bass guitar expo.. 1 Quote
Bass4real Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) Never heard the song before a minute ago Rebecca J. sounded good. A great jazz /blues / rBass player and a good friend of my family and he was hired to be the producer for the THRASH band I was in in the 90s i thought he toured with the temptations a few times but he toured with the 3 degrees. For being a jazz/blues/r&b bassist I wasn't worried about getting buried in the mix Bennie Sims did that THRASH band right The release titled DISRESPECT has been released in a few countries and is still selling 30 yrs later Not many though : ?) Have a good one C.C. Edited February 4 by Bass4real Quote
Terry M. Posted February 4 Posted February 4 10 hours ago, Woodinblack said: I wouldn't have called it stupid, it was clever and required skill Agreed. It does require a particular skill which as stated previously won't be for everybody. Calling it stupid however...well... Quote
Mickeyboro Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 02/02/2025 at 13:53, Leonard Smalls said: Eric! My favourite version. Thanks for posting!🙏 Quote
Leonard Smalls Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Mickeyboro said: My favourite version I'm a great fan of Dumstaphunk and Eric...Funky as! 1 Quote
fretmeister Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Definitely the first one. Although I could see the final verse / chorus veering towards the third one a bit as a sort of crescendo. Quote
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