Question re. phantom power and using two types of mics into desk

[missis sumner]

Hi again.  Sorry, I have another question.

 

We have a Wharfedale R-2004FX mixer.  It has a phantom power switch, described as 48V DC, global.

 

The manual says:

 

"27. Phantom Power Switch: When engaged, this switch applies 48Volts DC to all of the microphone inputs to allow the use of condenser microphones. This switch should remain turned off when only using dynamic,, type microphones. Bring the MAIN MIX faders all the way down when turning this switch on and off."

 

Fair enough.  I understand that.  But last night we set up all our gear, and my drummer wanted to use an overhead condenser microphone.  The singers' and all the other mics are dynamic.  They are all plugged into the desk via the XLR input sockets, as are our instruments.

 

(1) Can we use the phantom power if both types of mics are plugged into the desk via the XLR sockets?

 

The desk also has a jack input for each channel.  If we can't do (1) above, can we (2) plug the dynamic mics into the the input jacks instead, and turn the phantom power on?  What about the instruments - should we be using the jack inputs instead if we have phantom power on?

 

I've attached a pic of the desk and the description of the channel inputs from the manual.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

[pete.young]

Provided that you have have relatively modern (ie 20 years old or less) balanced mikes and use XLR cables you should be fine.

 

If you have any ribbon mikes they need to be safe with phantom power.

 

https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/q-phantom-power-on-dynamics

 

 

[missis sumner]

7 minutes ago, pete.young said:

Provided that you have have relatively modern (ie 20 years old or less) balanced mikes and use XLR cables you should be fine.

 

If you have any ribbon mikes they need to be safe with phantom power.

 

https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/q-phantom-power-on-dynamics

 

 

Thanks for the fast reply.  Is it still safe to plug our instruments(amps, obviously) into the XLR sockets in the desk, or should we be using the jack inputs?

[mike257]

4 hours ago, missis sumner said:

Thanks for the fast reply.  Is it still safe to plug our instruments(amps, obviously) into the XLR sockets in the desk, or should we be using the jack inputs?

 

Balanced XLR outputs from amps should be fine.  One thing to avoid is using a minijack to XLR to connect a phone/laptop to the mixer as phantom power will fry the output stage, but running from (for example) an XLR output on your bassd amp should be all good.

[pete.young]

5 hours ago, missis sumner said:

Thanks for the fast reply.  Is it still safe to plug our instruments(amps, obviously) into the XLR sockets in the desk, or should we be using the jack inputs?

If they're unbalanced outputs from mono jack sockets then they should probably go into the line-level jack socket inputs on the desk.