Building a band system to isolate IEM mixing from venue / engineer

[warwickhunt]

20 minutes ago, mike257 said:

 

You can actually bodge this with the X32 Rack, now that I think about it. 

 

It has eight XLR outputs, but it also has six "Aux" outputs on jacks, and I'm pretty sure you can still route the mix bus outputs to them, giving you 14 outs total. 

 

I was literally just Googling this to see if those jack outs could do the same as the XLRs. 

 

[mike257]

1 hour ago, warwickhunt said:

 

I was literally just Googling this to see if those jack outs could do the same as the XLRs. 

 

Been a while, but I was pretty confident you can route any output to them, and it looks like Mixing Station says yes.....

 

[JPJ]

Don’t forget, if you go Behringer you have the option of using Ultranet for your monitor mixes saving all those aux outs for other uses. Yes it means more outlay to buy the P16 personal mixers but it gives each band member a physical control of their IEM stereo mix. 
 

Edited yesterday at 09:18 by JPJ

[warwickhunt]

12 minutes ago, JPJ said:

Don’t forget, if you go Behringer you have the option of using Ultranet for your monitor mixes saving all those aux outs for other uses. Yes it means more outlay to buy the P16 personal mixers but it gives each band member a physical control of their IEM stereo mix. 
 

 

If using the Behringer solely as a mixer for us to access our own mixes for live use I'm not sure how/why/where/when we'd need to use the Aux outs for anything else... or would we?  

 

Is the P16 necessary for personal mixing if we can do it on the Aux of the X32 rack?  

[Kirky]

The P16 allows each band member to manage their own IEM mixes, rather than relying on whoever looked after the mixer.  You can do it via an app/devices, but it's easier using the physical knobs on the P16.  In our band (using an X18) two of us use P16s and the other three rely on the mix from the Aux outs.   

[warwickhunt]

4 minutes ago, Kirky said:

The P16 allows each band member to manage their own IEM mixes, rather than relying on whoever looked after the mixer.  You can do it via an app/devices, but it's easier using the physical knobs on the P16.  In our band (using an X18) two of us use P16s and the other three rely on the mix from the Aux outs.   

 

...but all 6 of us could just use an app on our Android or Apple phone direct to the X32?

[Kirky]

32 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

..but all 6 of us could just use an app on our Android or Apple phone direct to the X32

Yes, correct.   The other advantage of the P16 is it's stereo, and doesn't use any of the Auxes.  But all 6 of you could use the Auxes, apps, and wired or wireless in mono without any additional expense (assuming you have the devices you need). 

[warwickhunt]

I like the look of the P16 but tbh the expense is extravagance.  The X32 is ours, solely for our use as a means to get our own monitor mix without relying on engineers; it will likely be set once at a tech rehearsal and then just tweaked at different gigs via the app.