What's the next collectable on the second hand marketthen?

[BigRedX]

15 minutes ago, snorkie635 said:

What will be a 'desirable' Overwater?

 

IMO anything with the "Original" shape. The various Jazz copies not so much.

[Woodinblack]

46 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

Whoops. No I didn't, I paid £60.

 

Crazy money, they saw you coming! 

[Twigman]

5 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

Kay guitars - as the generation who know how shit they are and wants to burn them, people will buy them for retro cool.

 

I had a Kay Pbass  - I blame it for my current back problems. 45 years later my back has still not recovered.

Mine went to the council tip.

[Woodinblack]

1 minute ago, Twigman said:

I had a Kay Pbass  - I blame it for my current back problems. 45 years later my back has still not recovered.

Mine went to the council tip.

 

I had a Kay Stratocaster, was made with what I assume was construction grade pine, I can't remember what happened to it, but I suspect it is was the same place!

[Lozz196]

My first bass was a Kay EB-0 type bass, not a very good instrument, am sure mine went into the local rubbish tip. Am equally sure that I really wish I’d kept hold of it.

[la bam]

Those rick style kays go for around £150-200 now. 

[Woodinblack]

6 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

Am equally sure that I really wish I’d kept hold of it.

 

Mine certainly wasn't missed, it was replaced with a westone which was an order of magnitude better in every way

[Woodinblack]

1 minute ago, la bam said:

Those rick style kays go for around £150-200 now. 

 

I know - nostalgia makes people crazy

[Stub Mandrel]

3 hours ago, BigRedX said:

 

You were robbed. Worth about the same as what it would have cost new from Woolies back in the day - about £19.95

 

10/6 more like!

[uncle psychosis]

Most things that become collectable usually start off being either rare and/or fragile to start with - if they're ubiquitous and robust then they're just never going to reach big bucks, it has to be something that isn't easy to find, either because barely anyone had one or because all the originals broke.

 

Its pretty unusual for bass guitars to be so fragile that they deteriorate irreperably, so that leaves you with guitars that were either rare to start with, or things that were pretty unpopular so nobody bought them - until someone somewhere made a cool record with them.

 

I'd suggest Fender Dimension basses possibly tick that box, also the Squier 40th Anniversary models is an interesting shout but I don't think they're unique enough to ever get properly collectable.

 

To be honest though I think the naysayers above are correct. The number of collectors is diminishing, not growing. There will definitely be some fire sales in the next decade. Thankfully I've always bought my gear to use and not lied to myself that it's an investment.

[tegs07]

Each year brings a new thread about ‘crazy’ prices of new instruments made in the USA, Canada, Europe etc. Before deciding whether the price of older collectible instruments will correct its probably worth looking at the direction that the new market is headed. It will be interesting to see the price of new Mexican or US Fenders, Ricks and Musicman gear next year.

 

The top end collectible stuff is a different beast. Not so easy to predict. As for everything else. It’s getting more expensive and IMO is just going to keep on doing so.

[Elfrasho]

Not music related but I'm pretty certain old point and shoot digital cameras will start going for ridicoolous money. 

[Bolo]

Who is going to be doing the collecting? What is interesting to them?

[Stub Mandrel]

1 hour ago, Bolo said:

Who is going to be doing the collecting? What is interesting to them?

 

There's a lot of interest in old tech.

[Stub Mandrel]

https://amateurphotographer.com/second-hand/vintage-digital-cameras-you-should-actually-buy/

[Burns-bass]

I’m bemused at a lot of the stuff that’s now collectible, which is sort of the point I guess.

 

You could get an old Gameboy at every car boot sale in the UK for about £2 in the 90s. Now they’re £50 or more.

 

Whatever you think it is, it won’t be that.

 

Guy on the radio reckons that limited edition trainers are a collectible of the future. Keep them in the box etc. Sounds as good as anything else.

 

 

[ped]

On 18/03/2025 at 00:04, uncle psychosis said:

Most things that become collectable usually start off being either rare and/or fragile to start with - if they're ubiquitous and robust then they're just never going to reach big bucks, it has to be something that isn't easy to find, either because barely anyone had one or because all the originals broke.

 

Its pretty unusual for bass guitars to be so fragile that they deteriorate irreperably, so that leaves you with guitars that were either rare to start with, or things that were pretty unpopular so nobody bought them - until someone somewhere made a cool record with them.

 

I'd suggest Fender Dimension basses possibly tick that box, also the Squier 40th Anniversary models is an interesting shout but I don't think they're unique enough to ever get properly collectable.

 

To be honest though I think the naysayers above are correct. The number of collectors is diminishing, not growing. There will definitely be some fire sales in the next decade. Thankfully I've always bought my gear to use and not lied to myself that it's an investment.

That’s one perspective and by no means incorrect. But I also think the opposite is true. The term ‘Vintage’ seems to carry its own premium now regardless, and people love a vintage version of something that still exists in the mainstream. This is true for all sorts, from cars to watches. More often than not the item in question has improved on its original basic formula but somehow owning the original is special because at the time nobody knew that the lineage would be so successful, but by owning one you can look like you knew all along. 

[Stub Mandrel]

19 minutes ago, ped said:

More often than not the item in question has improved on its original basic formula but somehow owning the original is special because at the time nobody knew that the lineage would be so successful, but by owning one you can look like you knew all along. 

 

For me, at least, there is something special in a connection with the past through artefacts. If the object can still be used for its original purpose, or even repurposed, all the better.

[tegs07]

23 minutes ago, ped said:

somehow owning the original is special because at the time nobody knew that the lineage would be so successful, but by owning one you can look like you knew all along. 

I would argue that most of it is nostalgia and reaching a point in life where people can finally afford the items they dreamed of owning in their younger years. usually (but not exclusively) middle aged men. 

[ped]

11 minutes ago, tegs07 said:

I would argue that most of it is nostalgia and reaching a point in life where people can finally afford the items they dreamed of owning in their younger years. usually (but not exclusively) middle aged men. 

Maybe not so much these days!

[tegs07]

6 minutes ago, ped said:

Maybe not so much these days!

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:41 by tegs07

[casapete]

1 hour ago, Burns-bass said:

Guy on the radio reckons that limited edition trainers are a collectible of the future. Keep them in the box etc. Sounds as good as anything else.

This has been a massive thing for a long time now. People buy trainers from all over the world just to say they

own them - a bit like the current vinyl resurgence.

A friend of mine has been buying and selling ‘rare’ trainers for decades , and there are many specialist shops

that do this too. It’s a bit Spinal Tap though - ‘don’t touch them, don’t even look at them’ etc. Like vintage 

bass fanatics, probably mostly a male pursuit as well.

[la bam]

The psychology is interesting. Associating an instrument from a certain time with the music created at that time, which in turn evokes great memories from that time. 

[Burns-bass]

1 hour ago, casapete said:

This has been a massive thing for a long time now. People buy trainers from all over the world just to say they

own them - a bit like the current vinyl resurgence.

A friend of mine has been buying and selling ‘rare’ trainers for decades , and there are many specialist shops

that do this too. It’s a bit Spinal Tap though - ‘don’t touch them, don’t even look at them’ etc. Like vintage 

bass fanatics, probably mostly a male pursuit as well.

 

Shows how engaged I am with popular culture!

[Count Bassy]

Stylophones ??😄