Wombat Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Beedster said: That's a line I hear too often and it's bollocks, everyone has the right to be paid, or to choose to not be paid, for what they do It’s unfortunately not bollocks. Venue is not making a lot of money or losing it they hire the cheapest labour - and consequently bands prepared to play for not much or nothing. Those making a living from playing miss out. You can go all the way back to the Tolpuddle Martyrs for comparison. Do you want fries with that? Quote
Beedster Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, Wombat said: It’s unfortunately not bollocks. Venue is not making a lot of money or losing it they hire the cheapest labour - and consequently bands prepared to play for not much or nothing. Those making a living from playing miss out. You can go all the way back to the Tolpuddle Martyrs for comparison. Do you want fries with that? It is bollocks if you're being made to feel that your being paid is unfair on someone else, but that's a different question to the OP's point The vast majority of people we're talking about here are not pros, and those who are - like professionals in every field at present - need to recognise that the economy is changing. Venues that go under now will not start up again, in a year's time they'll be flats or corner shops. A little bit of give and take, in for example the scenario in the first post, far from being an existential threat to the livelihood of musicians, will help protect the future of live music as a whole Quote
Wombat Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Ah, ok. I see. When I was playing just covers I felt I was taking a ‘slot’ that pros could use. The current band is more originals and it’s great ( and hard!) to get our music out there. 1 Quote
Marvin Posted 32 minutes ago Posted 32 minutes ago Looking at the line up for this event, most if not all the bands and artists have done and will be doing paid gigs at this very venue. No one's getting ripped off, no one is being denied a booking and getting paid for it. It's one if the last venues standing in the area. Local musicians are supporting a venue that has supported them. It may not make a difference, people don't seem to want to go out and see anything other than tribute acts, or cover bands performing very well known songs. It may only give it a short term boost in publicity etc but at least the musicians involved can say we support you. 1 Quote
Beedster Posted 22 minutes ago Posted 22 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, Marvin said: Looking at the line up for this event, most if not all the bands and artists have done and will be doing paid gigs at this very venue. No one's getting ripped off, no one is being denied a booking and getting paid for it. It's one if the last venues standing in the area. Local musicians are supporting a venue that has supported them. It may not make a difference, people don't seem to want to go out and see anything other than tribute acts, or cover bands performing very well known songs. It may only give it a short term boost in publicity etc but at least the musicians involved can say we support you. It’s a long way from Kent but I’m almost tempted to travel down following that post @Marvin 🙏 Quote
MacDaddy Posted 19 minutes ago Posted 19 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, Marvin said: but at least the musicians involved can say we support you. Can the bar staff say the same? Quote
Beedster Posted 3 minutes ago Posted 3 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: Can the bar staff say the same? Guess if the venue stays open longer as the result of this event they keep their jobs longer? Quote
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