Danny Sapko discovers…

[fretmeister]

Even taking composer credit on Spotify!

 

 

[Stub Mandrel]

9 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Even taking composer credit on Spotify!

 

 

 

Worth watching to find out what Danny Sapko is like without all the corny exaggerated accent and other nonsense. Hope he doesn't get sued.

[spongebob]

His accent has definitely changed over time! 🤭

[FretsOnFire]

Danny is the only YouTube bassist that doesn't get on my nerves in one way or the other.

[fretmeister]

Andertons had a big video yesterday with the bloke in question.

It’s been taken down now.

 

He’s got signature gear and a US tour! 

[Merton]

As one commenter says, it feels like he’s sorry for being caught, not for doing it. And he’s missed the fact that the Spotify release isn’t his music.

 

Where’s the popcorn?

[Doctor J]

No, man, dig up!

[fretmeister]

He’s deleted comments that link to Danny’s video.

 

What a tool.

[FretsOnFire]

[risingson]

I’m familiar and have played a lot with at least one of the artists that has been ripped off. There’s basically no excuse for it, it’s straight plagiarism. I was gobsmacked when I watched the Sapko video in full, very difficult to argue it. 
 

I also think this is a kind of Great Oz moment and sums up the soullessness of where social media has taken a lot of performance. There is just something thin and plastic about the guy’s stuff anyway. The equivalent of putting an Insta filter over some timeless records and passing it on as something new. To then find out it’s just the lad lifting other people’s licks, repeatedly, is just grim. 

[Beedster]

Everything about this guy is just dull, his playing, his talking, his business model, his apology, as @risingson comment, he epitomises the soullessness of the whole internet music thing 

[Burns-bass]

51 minutes ago, Beedster said:

Everything about this guy is just dull, his playing, his talking, his business model, his apology, as @risingson comment, he epitomises the soullessness of the whole internet music thing 

I have no idea how this all works. The YouTube thing sort of passes me by, but this is properly dodgy.

 

I did wonder how they managed to execute such note perfect stuff. Turns out it’s all BS. 

[Beedster]

16 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:

I have no idea how this all works. The YouTube thing sort of passes me by, but this is properly dodgy.

 

I did wonder how they managed to execute such note perfect stuff. Turns out it’s all BS. 

 

I think there's a whole lot more trickery, ranging from clever use of audio/video tech to outright AI-driven deception, in this space than perhaps is obvious as first site. The old 'modern singers can't sing' idea (beneficiaries or victims of pitch correction, you decide....), I get the impression it's increasingly the case with musicians also  

[BabyBlueSound]

wow he even turned his always-backwards baseball cap around for the "apology", so the bro must be genuine 🙄

[fretmeister]

1 hour ago, Beedster said:

 

I think there's a whole lot more trickery, ranging from clever use of audio/video tech to outright AI-driven deception, in this space than perhaps is obvious as first site. The old 'modern singers can't sing' idea (beneficiaries or victims of pitch correction, you decide....), I get the impression it's increasingly the case with musicians also  

 

 

Midi Vanilli?

[Burns-bass]

1 hour ago, Beedster said:

 

I think there's a whole lot more trickery, ranging from clever use of audio/video tech to outright AI-driven deception, in this space than perhaps is obvious as first site. The old 'modern singers can't sing' idea (beneficiaries or victims of pitch correction, you decide....), I get the impression it's increasingly the case with musicians also  

 

It's just people showing off, isn't it?  

 

That's as old as time itself, but I don't understand why you'd want to waste time watching it...

[Alanko]

1 hour ago, Beedster said:

 

I think there's a whole lot more trickery, ranging from clever use of audio/video tech to outright AI-driven deception, in this space than perhaps is obvious as first site. The old 'modern singers can't sing' idea (beneficiaries or victims of pitch correction, you decide....), I get the impression it's increasingly the case with musicians also  

It is a shame that venues are closing everywhere and musicians can barely earn enough money to survive, let alone prosper. Yet it is lucrative to make short-form and/or blatantly fake content on social media. It seems wrong that the best outlet for creativity now is basically hyper-performant shredding videos filmed in the spare bedroom. Doctored, sped up, mixed from a billion takes etc.
 

My band sometimes records with guys who mainly focus on technical djent-y style metal. They always put down a grid and snap everything to it. They punch in individual notes. They put wraps on the strings at the headstock to remove unwanted overtones. It is beyond clinical, and YouTube musicians just seem a sort of weird additional couple of rungs on this musical spiral. Superhuman performances.

[MichaelDean]

Laney have removed their content of his as well. On Friday they released a custom colour for the Lionheart Fountry with Giacomo all over the marketing. All pulled. Yikes.

[Beedster]

27 minutes ago, Alanko said:

It is a shame that venues are closing everywhere and musicians can barely earn enough money to survive, let alone prosper. Yet it is lucrative to make short-form and/or blatantly fake content on social media. It seems wrong that the best outlet for creativity now is basically hyper-performant shredding videos filmed in the spare bedroom. Doctored, sped up, mixed from a billion takes etc.
 

My band sometimes records with guys who mainly focus on technical djent-y style metal. They always put down a grid and snap everything to it. They punch in individual notes. They put wraps on the strings at the headstock to remove unwanted overtones. It is beyond clinical, and YouTube musicians just seem a sort of weird additional couple of rungs on this musical spiral. Superhuman performances.

Agreed, especially re venues closing 😕

[fretmeister]

14 minutes ago, MichaelDean said:

Laney have removed their content of his as well. On Friday they released a custom colour for the Lionheart Fountry with Giacomo all over the marketing. All pulled. Yikes.

 

He's got a D'Angelico model guitar that has disappeared from their site, although he still shows as one of their artists.

[Cato]

Whatever the wrongs or rights of the situation I'm cynical enough to think that Mr Sapko probably isn't too upset at the significant boost to his own account is likely to get from exposing a more famous 'influencer'.

 

Social media is just as grubby and cut throat as any other part of the entertainment industry, probably more so because of the number of competitors all trying to grab the limited attention span of an easily bored audience.

 

 

[BabyBlueSound]

5 minutes ago, Cato said:

Whatever the wrongs or rights of the situation I'm cynical enough to think that Mr Sapko probably isn't too upset at the significant boost to his own account is likely to get from exposing a more famous 'influencer'.

 

Social media is just as grubby and cut throat as any other part of the entertainment industry, probably more so because of the number of competitors all trying to grab the limited attention span of an easily bored audience.

 

 

 Of course not, Danny is very transparent about making money and getting views on youtube.

 

Nothing's wrong with that if it's genuine content, or even happens to expose fakers like in this case. Ad/sponsor money is somewhat a zero sum game, there are limited budgets and large companies should not spend that sweet advertising budget on fakers, when they could be boosting the real artists.

[MichaelDean]

12 minutes ago, Cato said:

Whatever the wrongs or rights of the situation I'm cynical enough to think that Mr Sapko probably isn't too upset at the significant boost to his own account is likely to get from exposing a more famous 'influencer'.

 

Social media is just as grubby and cut throat as any other part of the entertainment industry, probably more so because of the number of competitors all trying to grab the limited attention span of an easily bored audience.

 

 

Well, Danny said he's actually not getting anything from that particular video. It's all going to Giacomo because Danny's used "his music" in numerous parts of the video.

[asingardenof]

18 hours ago, fretmeister said:

Even taking composer credit on Spotify!

 

 

This is going to end up being that "interpolation" stuff Rick Beato keeps railing against, isn't it.

[Killerfridge]

I initially disliked him due to his blatant "fake" videos (e.g. he would play different parts of a song on different instruments with looping, except it was clear miming), and I noticed that most of his basslines were covers (Vincen Garcia for one). But releasing other peoples music on Spotify is just plagarism and 100% not acceptable. 

 

*EDIT* This is the video in question that made me have an instant dislike. Smug gurning over a pre-recorded track (guitar starts playing before he even gets his hands on it), not really making it clear that this is a note for note cover of Vincen Garcia etc.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:12 by Killerfridge