Burns-bass Posted April 7 Posted April 7 9 minutes ago, Killerfridge said: I initially disliked him due to his blatant "fake" videos (e.g. he would play different parts of a song on different instruments with looping, except it was clear miming), and I noticed that most of his basslines were covers (Vincen Garcia for one). But releasing other peoples music on Spotify is just plagarism and 100% not acceptable. *EDIT* This is the video in question that made me have an instant dislike. Smug gurning over a pre-recorded track (guitar starts playing before he even gets his hands on it), not really making it clear that this is a note for note cover of Vincen Garcia etc. If anyone has ever done Grades it sounds like the sort of stuff we had to use while teaching in the 2000s. "Dirty Dog" a 3-minute funk jam in Bb with an 8-bar improvised solo section, etc. 1 Quote
EBS_freak Posted April 7 Posted April 7 2 hours ago, MichaelDean said: Laney have removed their content of his as well. On Friday they released a custom colour for the Lionheart Fountry with Giacomo all over the marketing. All pulled. Yikes. https://www.laney.co.uk/artists/giacomo-turra-solo 404 - Hoodwinked. 3 Quote
fretmeister Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 (edited) the guitar magazines are running the story now as well https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/guitarists/giacomo-turra-accusations Yesterday his signature model was heavily reduced on Andertons - now it's gone completely. If he goes ahead with his US tour using other people's music then he's going to get sued to oblivion. Edited April 9 by fretmeister 1 Quote
BigRedX Posted April 9 Posted April 9 22 minutes ago, fretmeister said: If he goes ahead with his US tour using other people's music then he's going to get sued to oblivion. He can play other people's music, how do you think covers bands exist? He just can't pass it off as his own. 1 Quote
fretmeister Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, BigRedX said: He can play other people's music, how do you think covers bands exist? He just can't pass it off as his own. Not quite what I meant - I meant about continuing the fraud in general. I should have been clearer. The tour / ticket sales etc are all based on a lie. Anyone who already has a ticket can demand a refund, the promoters are probably going to sue him, the venues might too. The USA allows for punitive damages as well as compensatory ones so that might mean monies on top of refunds and direct costs to the venues. As most of the people buying the tickets before the exposure would have thought it was his own work he might have to introduce every single tune giving credit to the right person to get away with it. Or redo all the advertising to be "Giacomo plays the music of..." Unless he takes positive steps at least equal to the original advertising then he would probably be deemed to still be passing off. 1 Quote
BabyBlueSound Posted April 9 Posted April 9 I think in the UK (and likely many other countries) your own song is covered by copyright as soon as you write and publish it. Publishing = posting to youtube in this case. I already got my teeny tiny 🎻 out and ready to play it 😁 Quote
Doctor J Posted April 9 Posted April 9 It's grand, he has set it up beautfully to do a "penny drops and I've ruined my career but now I'm digging up" video where he cries a little, finally acknowledges what he did wrong, outlines the mental struggles he has gone through which we don't understand and promises he's on the path to redemption to make everyone, who called him out for being a c**t, feel guilty. They're all the rage, these days. It's really society's fault, don't you know 🤣 2 Quote
fretmeister Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 Update video… it’s even worse Seems there is instrument theft as well!! 5 Quote
Burns-bass Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Seems awful. But I just can’t watch these videos without cringing. Quote
lemmywinks Posted April 10 Posted April 10 On 06/04/2025 at 20:50, Merton said: As one commenter says, it feels like he’s sorry for being caught, not for doing it. And he’s missed the fact that the Spotify release isn’t his music. Where’s the popcorn? Same story with all content theives, if you have some time to spare then this is well worth a watch. Exactly the same attitude of deleting comments, making excuses and covering tracks instead of owning up to stealing from creators. 3 Quote
Merton Posted April 10 Posted April 10 12 hours ago, EBS_freak said: Is Jones really going to deliver on that bass? https://www.instagram.com/share/_tobxtl53 1 Quote
Killerfridge Posted April 10 Posted April 10 1 hour ago, lemmywinks said: Same story with all content theives, if you have some time to spare then this is well worth a watch. Exactly the same attitude of deleting comments, making excuses and covering tracks instead of owning up to stealing from creators. This is exactly the video I was thinking of when the discussion of plagiarism popped up. Great watch, well worth the nearly 4 hours 2 Quote
lemmywinks Posted April 10 Posted April 10 43 minutes ago, Killerfridge said: This is exactly the video I was thinking of when the discussion of plagiarism popped up. Great watch, well worth the nearly 4 hours When I first saw it I said to myself "yea, I'm not watching a 4hr YT video" and I usually watch everything hbomberguy does. I've seen it twice now, albeit on in the background while I'm sat at my computer at work. 2 Quote
EBS_freak Posted April 10 Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Merton said: https://www.instagram.com/share/_tobxtl53 Got lucky with the timings then! 1 Quote
BabyBlueSound Posted Tuesday at 12:16 Posted Tuesday at 12:16 I see some "smaller" youtubers taking up the topic, wondering when and where is this going to end Quote
BassApprentice Posted Tuesday at 12:35 Posted Tuesday at 12:35 15 minutes ago, BabyBlueSound said: I see some "smaller" youtubers taking up the topic, wondering when and where is this going to end That's just getting views from a hot topic. I reckon he'll go dark for a while, come back doing something very similar but having dropped out the spotlight he won't be getting anywhere near the same amount of views. I've never purposefully watches his content, sometimes got thrown in on Instagram and Spotify, but I wonder how good he actually is? If he can note perfect play all these solos then he can definitely write his own stuff. Most musicians have enough creativity to write their own riffs and solos so it's all just so very odd that he's done this. Anyway, he's a bit of a prat and is getting his comeuppance. 2 Quote
Alanko Posted Tuesday at 12:59 Posted Tuesday at 12:59 Interestingly, Danny Sapko initially picked up on a video of Giacomo at NAMM, not playing very well. Drag a superhuman bedroom YouTube guitarist out of their den and it transpires they aren't very good, musically. This seems like an example of 'game-ification' in action. Via beat quantising, tempo manipulation and re-processed midi tracks you can appear to be an impossibly clean, fast guitarist. It sounds robotic and synthetic because it essentially is, but do kids realise this? Do kids realise that this isn't really anything musical? 2 Quote
Killerfridge Posted Tuesday at 13:28 Posted Tuesday at 13:28 27 minutes ago, Alanko said: Interestingly, Danny Sapko initially picked up on a video of Giacomo at NAMM, not playing very well. Drag a superhuman bedroom YouTube guitarist out of their den and it transpires they aren't very good, musically. This seems like an example of 'game-ification' in action. Via beat quantising, tempo manipulation and re-processed midi tracks you can appear to be an impossibly clean, fast guitarist. It sounds robotic and synthetic because it essentially is, but do kids realise this? Do kids realise that this isn't really anything musical? Yeah, I mean if you've ever been subjected to his videos it's clear they've been pre-recorded (not necessarily a bad thing, but it makes you start to question). When you listen to his bass playing, it's so even and note perfect, I suspect it's been recorded slowed down then sped up to the original track (I refer you to the video I posted on the previous page) 1 Quote
Alanko Posted Tuesday at 13:31 Posted Tuesday at 13:31 1 minute ago, Killerfridge said: Yeah, I mean if you've ever been subjected to his videos it's clear they've been pre-recorded (not necessarily a bad thing, but it makes you start to question). When you listen to his bass playing, it's so even and note perfect, I suspect it's been recorded slowed down then sped up to the original track (I refer you to the video I posted on the previous page) Why do we reward such blatant fakery with product endorsements! Gear brands must be desperate got any crumbs of engagement from the audience of content creators, which is a bit grim. 2 Quote
BabyBlueSound Posted Tuesday at 13:36 Posted Tuesday at 13:36 2 minutes ago, Alanko said: Why do we reward such blatant fakery with product endorsements! Gear brands must be desperate got any crumbs of engagement from the audience of content creators, which is a bit grim. Maybe some millennial and boomer managers are having a sitdown with those kids right about now... who don't know too much about real music, but still run the socials for these otherwise respectable companies. ... I sound so old. But seems like they're the real target for the instafluencer musician. 1 Quote
kwmlondon Posted Tuesday at 14:09 Posted Tuesday at 14:09 Okay. I think I may be the only person in this thread to have seen Giacommo live and... he was very good. His band was excellent. They did that kind of MOR-funk that Vulfpeck do, but while it was very tight and well-rehearsed it was kind of bland and soul-less. Sort of how I'd expect a very, very good cruise ship band to be. I came away thinking he was a very, very competent guitarist, a skilled performer and his band was oustanding. I had no desire to listen to any of his stuff or go see him again, but I do think that given time to practise he is an outstanding musical mimic. It's the fact he's monetised other people's work that's at issue and that he's done it so blantanly and flagrantly that having been caught out he's got nowhere to hide. Personally, my suspicion is that he hasn't got any musical creativity or imagination but that's just a guess. 4 Quote
BabyBlueSound Posted Tuesday at 14:15 Posted Tuesday at 14:15 4 minutes ago, kwmlondon said: Personally, my suspicion is that he hasn't got any musical creativity or imagination but that's just a guess. This is what got me thinking. He's obviously not bad at all. To me, he's way above the level where even if he doesn't have any musical imagination, he could still string together a lot of technics and building blocks from all the stuff he obviously practiced to death. He could have changed up rythm and stuff just enough that a Laney can't have anything against him. But he choose not to, and thought if someone only got 200 views, none of that 200 people obviously interested in guitar stuff will ever stumble upon his socials campaigns... 😁 this is a very weird level of lazy stupid. 1 Quote
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