The Who sack Zak Starkey

[Burns-bass]

40 minutes ago, Sean said:

I was there too.

Was great wasn’t it…

[lemmywinks]

If they were going to get rid of one member you'd think it'd have been the noncey one.

[Sean]

3 minutes ago, lemmywinks said:

If they were going to get rid of one member you'd think it'd have been the noncey one.

He's still writing the book.

[mikebass456]

Have got this lined up as my next read - will report back.....😎👍

[mike257]

As far as I knew, they'd had him on an electric kit for some time now. 

 

Maybe he's just sick of that thumpy sound of sticks hitting rubber pads behind him 🤷

[hiram.k.hackenbacker]

19 minutes ago, mike257 said:

As far as I knew, they'd had him on an electric kit for some time now. 

 

Maybe he's just sick of that thumpy sound of sticks hitting rubber pads behind him 🤷

He wouldn’t hear that through his IEM’s.

Edited Thursday at 08:14 by hiram.k.hackenbacker

[Beedster]

The drum sound is the excuse not the reason, even bassists will recognise that when they’re pissed of with their guitarist every note sounds out of tune and too loud 🤔

[Wombat]

Guitarists arn’t out of tune and too loud? 🤔

[franzbassist]

A slight aside, but I saw Zak when he was playing in the Moody Marsden band and he was really rather good.  In fact, with Jaz Lochrie on bass that band was really very good.

[mike257]

30 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

He wouldn’t hear that through his IEM’s.

 

I know, I was being facetious. 

[bassace]

Saw them in Birmingham five(ish)years ago. With three keyboards. They were great, particularly Zak, a worthy successor to Moon. It was Pino who was underplaying and not quite fitting in. I know, I know, but I just don’t get him.

[police squad]

1 hour ago, franzbassist said:

A slight aside, but I saw Zak when he was playing in the Moody Marsden band and he was really rather good.  In fact, with Jaz Lochrie on bass that band was really very good.

I saw that band in Folkestone. Hardly anybody was there but Boz Burrell was on bass and Don Airey on keys

Awesome

[acidbass]

6 minutes ago, bassace said:

I know, I know, but I just don’t get him.

I love Pino's playing but he wasn't the right fit for The Who, both in terms of playing and his tone.  What has since become apparent with Jon Button is that no one can really replace Entwistle.  Button is also a square peg in a round hole IMO.

[Woodinblack]

1 hour ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

He wouldn’t hear that through his IEM’s.

 

Is that what they call hearing aids these days?

[Woodinblack]

1 hour ago, Beedster said:

even bassists will recognise that when they’re pissed of with their guitarist every note sounds out of tune and too loud 🤔

 

Well, bad news for me, even if I am not pissed off!

[peteb]

21 minutes ago, police squad said:

I saw that band in Folkestone. Hardly anybody was there but Boz Burrell was on bass and Don Airey on keys

Awesome

 

I saw Zak with Moody, Boz and a great singer who's name I can't remember (who went onto tour with some 60s heritage band) at the Royal Standard in Walthamstow in the early 80s. Zak would have been a teenager at the time (I wasn't that much older). Great band to see in a pub! 

 

Edit - just looked him up, the singer was Spencer James who later joined The Searchers

 

Edited Thursday at 09:53 by peteb

[police squad]

9 minutes ago, peteb said:

 

I saw Zak with Moody, Boz and a great singer who's name I can't remember (who went onto tour with some 60s heritage band) at the Royal Standard in Walthamstow in the early 80s. Zak would have been a teenager at the time (I wasn't that much older). Great band to see in a pub! 

 

wow that's cool

Zak is a great drummer

[Supernaut]

I believe Daltrey had this playing in ears for the Albert Hall gig: 

 

 

[hiram.k.hackenbacker]

There was a blurb in Rolling Stone from Zak. Seems like he’s over it. The Who don’t exactly have a hectic touring schedule at the moment. I’m sure he has something else lined up already.

[Marvin]

There only a handful of Who songs I like so I'm in no way a fan. 

 

Daltrey always comes across as utterly ignorant and rather unpleasant to me. So it'd no surprise if this fall out is as a result of Roger tantrum.

[Steve Browning]

3 hours ago, Beedster said:

 

You move in illustrious circles Steve 👍

 

Through mutual friends, I play in a band with him (Simon Law) and he built my two main stage basses for me (replicas of my 66 Precision).

[police squad]

40 minutes ago, Steve Browning said:

 

Through mutual friends, I play in a band with him (Simon Law) and he built my two main stage basses for me (replicas of my 66 Precision).

Simon built my brother a strat based on Matt Schofield's guitar, small world really

[Steve Browning]

18 minutes ago, police squad said:

Simon built my brother a strat based on Matt Schofield's guitar, small world really

He makes some amazing instruments. Mainly makes guitars, based on the strat you mention, and Robben Ford's '61 tele (he was guitar tech for both). He recently made his first Les Paul and it's stunning.

[StingRayBoy42]

2 hours ago, acidbass said:

I love Pino's playing but he wasn't the right fit for The Who, both in terms of playing and his tone.  What has since become apparent with Jon Button is that no one can really replace Entwistle.  Button is also a square peg in a round hole IMO.

They should get Ringo on Drums and Paul McCartney on Bass and call themselves 'The Whotles'

[12stringbassist]

So.... Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend have fired Zak Starkey from The Who after this recent performance.

I find it absolutely staggering that some of my favourite musicians could go out and play like that, being so badly under-rehearsed and then turn round and blame the drummer for it all. To be honest, Roger Daltrey's voice stopped being great years ago and Pete Townshend did very well to stand through that show, following his recent knee surgery. He soldiered bravely on through the pain, but his best years as a guitarist have also long gone. It's an old joke to say turn round and blame the drummer when a song goes wrong.

If I were them, I would have taken the band back into a rehearsal room for a week or two and have looked honestly at what, if anything, is lacking. 'Go To The Mirror Boy' - to quote Pete Townshend.

It really pains me to say that The Who are nothing like they used to be at all.

A man's got to know his limitations. Lesser mortals like myself have set sensible end dates.

Quit while you're ahead, I always say.