Darkglass Anagram

[Kev]

Well...

 

 

[Eldon Tyrell]

 

[Kev]

It looks like it'll land at over £1k, which is getting VERY close to Quad Cortex money.  Is it comparable?

 

Edit* Actually £899 https://www.andertons.co.uk/darkglass-anagram-bass-workstation/

Edited 21 hours ago by Kev

[BEADist]

Leo Gibson:

 

 

[Eldon Tyrell]

Well, looks like you can do quite a lot with it. Maybe the one stop solution for gigging musicians?

However, too much of an overkill for a bedroom player like me. Also too many buttons, switches, screens etc.

So, I guess for me, the old school guy and hobbyist, I'll stick with ANALOG instead of ANAGRAM 😉  

 

[Linus27]

It does look mighty impressive but being an old skool bassist, even the Helix HX Stomp seems too fiddly for me so this totally blows my brain. It does look bloody brilliant but I'll stick with my Sansamp, Compressor, OC5, Chorus, Reverb, Tuner pedal and bit of foam under the strings 🤣 

Edited 20 hours ago by Linus27

[Dood]

The fact that they have brought on board Neural Amp Modeller is very interesting! I've been using the Open Source application for quite some time, from release I suppose. It's profiling abilities are really rather good and "Steve Ack", the chap behind the application could have charged for it over and over it is that good, but chose to keep to a "free for all" license. 

 

A user led repository already has a huge amount of bass gear captures (usual guidelines apply regarding the caprturing process) https://www.tone3000.com/search?search=bass&q=bass .

Quad Cortex's user uploads are pretty huge too, so having the option of either is nothing but a good thing - though I wonder if there will be cross-compatibility between Neural DSP and Darkglass. In a funny sort of way, they kinda compete, but then, don't?

[Dood]

20 minutes ago, Linus27 said:

It does look mighty impressive but being an old skool bassist, even the Helix HX Stomp seems too fiddly for me so this totally blows my brain. It does look bloody brilliant but I'll stick with my Sansamp, Compressor, OC5, Chorus, Reverb, Tuner pedal and bit of foam under the strings 🤣 

 

Yes, the TC Electronic Plethora X5 seems to be wading in the same waters, I'll have to go for a snout to see how each measure up. I guess I ought to have a chat with Darkglass and have one over for review, right?

[Kev]

10 minutes ago, Dood said:

 

Quad Cortex's user uploads are pretty huge too, so having the option of either is nothing but a good thing - though I wonder if there will be cross-compatibility between Neural DSP and Darkglass. In a funny sort of way, they kinda compete, but then, don't?

I'd be amazed if they do.  

 

This is clearly a product aimed at drawing bass customers away from the likes of a QC, so if they weren't competing before, they are now!

[Dood]

Just now, Kev said:

I'd be amazed if they do.  

 

This is clearly a product aimed at drawing bass customers away from the likes of a QC, so if they weren't competing before, they are now!

 

It seems an odd move doesn't it, given how closely they are ensconsed. Or, is it a stroke of genius getting N.A.M in to their world(s) before the other big profilier players out there can? Sonicake have got the N.A.M player in to their lil £50 Pocket Master, which reminds me of the old Zoom 9002, but that's not really competition for Darkglass Anagram.

[Dood]

24 effects at once! Crickey Charlie!

[visog]

35 minutes ago, Dood said:

24 effects at once! Crickey Charlie!

 

Indeed - that's a lot for a single effects chain, even for a full on multi-echo/reverb ambient sound. I wonder if these can be split and mixed across parallel signal chains?

[Dood]

4 minutes ago, visog said:

 

Indeed - that's a lot for a single effects chain, even for a full on multi-echo/reverb ambient sound. I wonder if these can be split and mixed across parallel signal chains?

 

The blurb mentions six core processing, which is some heavy  audio lifting. I think I saw a brief glimse of parallel paths in on of the videos, but I've had one eye on the screen and the other on a small IT issue I'm dealing with! 

[Dood]

9 minutes ago, visog said:

 

Indeed - that's a lot for a single effects chain, even for a full on multi-echo/reverb ambient sound. I wonder if these can be split and mixed across parallel signal chains?

 

Ahh yes, my friend Erik Arko says (in his video above) parallel processing as well as sending different stuff to different outputs is possible (Like sending an IR / cabinet sound to PA and the rest of the path to the onstage amplifer). 

Edited 18 hours ago by Dood

[Rollin Thunder]

3 hours ago, Eldon Tyrell said:

 

modelled the Bass on “an justice for all”

there is no such thing!!!

 

 

[visog]

16 minutes ago, Dood said:

 

Ahh yes, my friend Erik Arko says (in his video above) parallel processing as well as sending different stuff to different outputs is possible (Like sending an IR / cabinet sound to PA and the rest of the path to the onstage amplifer). 

Yes - thank-you. Split and merge blocks in the signal chain... cool. Not sure I can afford £900 though...

[Rollin Thunder]

Bit pricey but I am interested in this, either getting a Brand new mini amp rig Ashdown Studio type or might go for this. See how the price drops more real life reviews 

[BEADist]

The UI looks nice. But is it smart and fast working?

 

It seems impossible to see the whole signal chain on one screen. If you are a 'heavy' user that means plenty of (extra) scrolling if you want to first fine tune the first pedal on the upper path and then the last pedal on the lower path.

 

The pictures of the pedals on the screen look nice, but they seem to not showing the actual values of the pedal?

 

Edit: looking at the manual there seems to be plenty of customization for the rotaries. I will read it before more complaining : )

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by BEADist

[visog]

More info here...

 

[attackbass]

If this was a product a few years back I would've chosen it over the Quad.

 

Now?

 

I don't think it would be worth the effort or make sense to sell the QC to buy this. I also feel obliged to stay loyal to Dougs new company and products since he has helped me out a good few times over the last few years.

 

Just please port the Darkglass plugin into the QC!

 

 

[LukeFRC]

 It makes me think of a quad cortex went on a diet and made babies with a zoom b3

[LukeFRC]

Also 

if we take away amp modelling and so on which I’m sure is brilliant … it does make me think of zoom

 

line6 will be at the end where there’s a million different effects modelled 

 

source audio are the end where the effect has a million different variations you can make 

 

this is the zoom middle ground?

[Russ]

Looks amazing. Small too, so very gig bag-friendly (looks way smaller than a QC). I'd love to try one out. 

 

Only thing it appears to be missing is an expression pedal, or even a connection for an external one. Not a dealbreaker though. 

[Kev]

It gives a vibe of a compact version that has somehow come out before the main one, even though that won't be the case.  Like it's been adapted to fit in a small enclosure?  Seems odd to design a screen and UI that has to be scrolled to see a full signal chain?   

[MichaelDean]

19 minutes ago, Russ said:

Only thing it appears to be missing is an expression pedal, or even a connection for an external one. Not a dealbreaker though. 

I noticed that too. A bit annoying. Boss do make a MIDI enabled expression pedal (EV-1-WL), but it's a bit spendy at £140.

 

I still can't get on with the Darkglass tone though. That fizzy top end and seemingly disconnected low just doesn't sound good to me.