Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Getting an Ashdown ABM 4x10 today and they are not the lightest cabs around. Just wondering how others move their cabs about. On a trolly, attached casters etc. As I am not as young as I used to be, any suggestions or advice appreciated. Quote
ezbass Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I use a lightweight trolley for my 1212L Schroeder, but when I was using heavier Ashdown cabs I used a board with casters. On reflection I think the board was easier to use than my current trolley as the trolley sometimes gets terminal wobble and tips over. Another nice thing about the "skateboard" was that you could pile things on top of the cab; head, pedal board, etc. If you decide to go the board route, don't skrimp on the casters as you'll only end up replacing them with better ones. Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='ezbass' post='509994' date='Jun 10 2009, 11:00 AM']I use a lightweight trolley for my 1212L Schroeder, but when I was using heavier Ashdown cabs I used a board with casters. On reflection I think the board was easier to use than my current trolley as the trolley sometimes gets terminal wobble and tips over. Another nice thing about the "skateboard" was that you could pile things on top of the cab; head, pedal board, etc. If you decide to go the board route, don't skrimp on the casters as you'll only end up replacing them with better ones.[/quote] I was wondering if its worth putting casters direct onto the bottom of the cab. Quote
escholl Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Linus27' post='510010' date='Jun 10 2009, 11:24 AM']I was wondering if its worth putting casters direct onto the bottom of the cab.[/quote] imo, no. some sort of trolley/board with casters is the way to go. Edited June 10, 2009 by escholl Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='escholl' post='510030' date='Jun 10 2009, 11:50 AM']imo, no. some sort of trolley/board with casters is the way to go.[/quote] That certainly would be the easiest way forward. Quote
ezbass Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Linus27' post='510010' date='Jun 10 2009, 11:24 AM']I was wondering if its worth putting casters direct onto the bottom of the cab.[/quote] Did that, it was OK, I think the board was better. Problem is that unless you use removeable casters on a cab they stick out and can rattle. If you stand the cab on the casters there is a school of thought that questions the efficiency of the cab when not using the correct feet, I found it OK but YMMV. Of course you are also potentially lowering any resale value if you mod the cab. Quote
BigBeefChief Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Providing your cab is well sealed I find the easiest thing to do is fill the cab with Helium. It doesn't affect my tone, and allows me to "float" my rig into position. Either a heavey amp sitting on top or sand-bags provide sufficient ballast whilst playing. Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='510048' date='Jun 10 2009, 12:07 PM']Providing your cab is well sealed I find the easiest thing to do is fill the cab with Helium. It doesn't affect my tone, and allows me to "float" my rig into position. Either a heavey amp sitting on top or sand-bags provide sufficient ballast whilst playing.[/quote] The only problem with helium is it can be quite expensive and is in high demand for blowing baloons up. Do you think I could use my own body gasses instead? I do tend to produce a fair amount as confirmed by my wife and on a Thursday after Curry day at work, also confirmed by my wife. Quote
BigBeefChief Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Linus27' post='510056' date='Jun 10 2009, 12:14 PM']The only problem with helium is it can be quite expensive and is in high demand for blowing baloons up. Do you think I could use my own body gasses instead? I do tend to produce a fair amount as confirmed by my wife and on a Thursday after Curry day at work, also confirmed by my wife. [/quote] No. It will "colour" the sound. Quote
obbm Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I once put a Trace 4x10 on fixed castors and it sounded awful as it lost all coupling with the ground. Dolly is preferable. Finding a suitably attractive dolly could be difficult as I'm sure Mrs OBBM would have something to say on the matter. Quote
EBS_freak Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Get some white paint and paint it all over the cab. I've heard that the lighter a cab is, the easier it is to carry. Quote
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Why are you lot doing carrying your own cabs? Don't any of you employ a wife to do that as part of their duties? Quote
51m0n Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I have a team of 43 midget Ghurkali warriors for the cab and 15 tame trained shrews for the amp..... I carry my bass and leads bag myself though (cant find the staff) Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='obbm' post='510065' date='Jun 10 2009, 12:18 PM']I once put a Trace 4x10 on fixed castors and it sounded awful as it lost all coupling with the ground. Dolly is preferable. Finding a suitably attractive dolly could be difficult as I'm sure Mrs OBBM would have something to say on the matter.[/quote] I'm sure I saw a few suitable dollies tucked away in your garage Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='EBS_freak' post='510106' date='Jun 10 2009, 12:59 PM']Get some white paint and paint it all over the cab. I've heard that the lighter a cab is, the easier it is to carry.[/quote] This man is a genius. Why other companies don't do this I don't know Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='510062' date='Jun 10 2009, 12:17 PM']No. It will "colour" the sound.[/quote] HAHAHAHA good point Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='51m0n' post='510211' date='Jun 10 2009, 02:38 PM']I have a team of 43 midget Ghurkali warriors for the cab and 15 tame trained shrews for the amp..... I carry my bass and leads bag myself though (cant find the staff)[/quote] I have an Ashdown head also so 15 just won't be enough. I wonder if I can train some squirrels to do the lot Quote
peted Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I put some hard-wearing castors on my Hartke PRO 2200 2x12", and although it has been a great addition to help me get it around, in hind-sight I think I would have preferred to use a trolley or make up a 'skateboard' for it. The fixed castors have a habit of catching the car and other equipment during load-in. Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 I think its conclusive that unless i can train the Squirrels in the garden, the best bet is going to be a trolly. Quote
iamapirate Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Squirrels it is, then. By the way, 1 post is easier to read than 4 in a row Actually, I have the same problem as you at the moment. I've got the same cab as you, only in a 300 watt combo! So it's twice as heavy - WITH NO CASTERS! I'm gonna have to make a skateboard of some kind.... or nick one off a kid in the street *walks over to the door Quote
EBS_freak Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 After doing some more research, I have found out that it is infact, the weight of the magnets in the speakers that are responsible for the weight. What I would suggest is that you remove the weight of these magnets from the cab by removing the speakers. That should make the cab more manageable. That and a lick of white paint... ...and you should be in business! ROCK THE HOUSE DOWN! Quote
Stylon Pilson Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I heard that things weigh less in water. So what I suggest you do is get a big watertight tank that is big enough to contain your cab. Put wheels on the bottom, fill it with water, and then drop the cab in. Voila! S.P. Quote
Linus27 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='EBS_freak' post='510312' date='Jun 10 2009, 04:07 PM']After doing some more research, I have found out that it is infact, the weight of the magnets in the speakers that are responsible for the weight. What I would suggest is that you remove the weight of these magnets from the cab by removing the speakers. That should make the cab more manageable. That and a lick of white paint... ...and you should be in business! ROCK THE HOUSE DOWN![/quote] Thats just crazy. Why put magnets in a speaker cab? Don't they know thats just going to make it heavier. Good plan, I'm just going to take the speakers out, chuck them in the bin, paint the cab white and jobs a carrot on the end of a fishing rod. Quote
cheddatom Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Does anyone just carry their combo/cab? I used to carry my peavey combo from the car to the stage and back no problem. Quote
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