woolz Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 ok cheers. i play very loud indeed. quite heard rock but not metal. maybe the 15's are for me then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 [quote name='woolz' post='558380' date='Aug 2 2009, 11:44 AM']....ok cheers. i play very loud indeed. quite heard rock but not metal. maybe the 15's are for me then....[/quote] I've only used the ER15's and they work well for what I do. I believe Dood uses the ER25's so maybe he plays louder than I do. PM him and ask about the differences. Also you could call the ACS guys and discuss which type is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bythesea Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Properly fitted 15s are going to be your best bet, but given the price difference I would probably have a pair of 20s as well, and keep them on your keyring for any unexpected use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
descendent87 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Used my new ER-20's at rehearsals this weekend, was really expecting everything to sound muffled but it was great. The biggest plus was that for the first time my ears weren't ringing afterwards, will be wearing them for every rehearsal/gig from now on, £10 well spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 After a 6 month bout of tinnitus a few years ago i always wear earplugs when I go to see a band but I've found them difficult when I'm playing. I've tried Heroes and ER-20's (and Boots foam plugs and, in dire emergencies, bog roll. The good bit is that if your partner and mates all have ear plugs in too you can talk to each other without shouting as those frequencies are audible, even in front of the stage. After the article in Bass Guitar Magazine I've had my impressions taken (Ormorods in Boots) and I'm waiting for my custom ECS plugs to show up to use when playing. We do a lot of talking to the audience and each other on stage so I'm hoping the general reduction in level will work better than the selected frequencies the ER-20's give and that I don't then end up playing too loud in the mix ... I have a feeling the "in head foldback" effect will make playing sax a very weird experience We will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Well they arrived, ent back to getthe strings I'd asked fro fitted and got stuck in the postal strike ....... Eventually showed up at the factory and were back inside 3 days. Not bad service but not quite as good as fitting the cords in the frirst place. Two gigs in and things are working out. I still have to sound check and set levels without the plugs in but once we get going I stick them in. They are brilliant when playing. I can hear what I'm playing much more clearly and the rest of the band Ok. The only down side is that when singing I can hear nothing but my internal fold back so a bit of adjustment has been needed so I make sure I play the right notes when singing cos if I don't I can't hear the error. In between numbers (which can be quite a long time for us whilst we set up the dances) I take them out to make the talking and hearing bit easier. I have to hear the heckles They were an absolute God send at the first gig I used them. The DJ was hitting 120 Db in a small (empty) room whilst we were packing up. We measured him. The band managed just 105 Db when playing .. drums, cymbals and all ...... Well worth the dosh IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deksawyer Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I've recently converted to Heroes (the ones in the white rectangular box) after years of using ER-20's. They let a tad more mid in which I find beneficial at rehearsal or gigs. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylon Pilson Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 [quote name='OldGit' post='611492' date='Sep 29 2009, 12:01 AM']The only down side is that when singing I can hear nothing but my internal fold back so a bit of adjustment has been needed so I make sure I play the right notes when singing cos if I don't I can't hear the error.[/quote] It's the main drawback of earplugs (though it can also be a boon, for those occasions when the monitoring ain't so good). I suppose the solution, if you want it, is IEMs. S.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I got a pair of ER20's just in time for a dep gig over the weekend with the loudest old-skool blues band I have ever heard. Great, great fun, but without the ER20's I probably wouldn't be able to hear anything now. I was very pleasantly suprised. Mind you, I'm not sure wether I'd be able to get away with wearing them in my other bands which are more dynamic and are heavy on the BVs. We'll see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='611788' date='Sep 29 2009, 11:46 AM']I got a pair of ER20's just in time for a dep gig over the weekend with the loudest old-skool blues band I have ever heard. Great, great fun, but without the ER20's I probably wouldn't be able to hear anything now. I was very pleasantly suprised. Mind you, I'm not sure wether I'd be able to get away with wearing them in my other bands which are more dynamic and are heavy on the BVs. We'll see...[/quote] One on the drumer side might help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Currently using ER20s and loving them, but I am planning on getting some moulded plugs made up for a Christmas present to myself. One question though as the filters only come as ER15 or ER25 - which ones do I go for? I really like the 20 dB reduction of my current plugs and I don't want my tinnitus getting any worse if 15 dB is too little, but will 25 dB be too much? The bands I'm in at the moment are remarkably well behaved, but I'd like to get back into playing metal again sometime in the future and I know that I'll be thankful for the 25 dB reduction. Does anyone have any trouble playing with a well behaved band using ER25s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 [quote name='peted' post='629055' date='Oct 17 2009, 09:22 PM']Currently using ER20s and loving them, but I am planning on getting some moulded plugs made up for a Christmas present to myself. One question though as the filters only come as ER15 or ER25 - which ones do I go for? I really like the 20 dB reduction of my current plugs and I don't want my tinnitus getting any worse if 15 dB is too little, but will 25 dB be too much? The bands I'm in at the moment are remarkably well behaved, but I'd like to get back into playing metal again sometime in the future and I know that I'll be thankful for the 25 dB reduction. Does anyone have any trouble playing with a well behaved band using ER25s?[/quote] You can change the filters so you coudl start with 25s and go to 15s if they don't work. Not cheap though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Got my appointment on April 7th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 [quote name='Toasted' post='784779' date='Mar 24 2010, 03:13 PM']Got my appointment on April 7th [/quote] The Syphilis thread is over there, Joe >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 ha ha reminds me of a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 [quote name='OldGit' post='784878' date='Mar 24 2010, 04:48 PM']ha ha reminds me of a joke[/quote] ...that someone told you while you were in the waiting room? ha ha etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' post='784880' date='Mar 24 2010, 04:50 PM']...that someone told you while you were in the waiting room? ha ha etc [/quote] Yeah Your girl friend's husband He was my next patient. Edited March 24, 2010 by OldGit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 [quote name='OldGit' post='784918' date='Mar 24 2010, 05:33 PM']Yeah Your girl friend's husband He was my next patient.[/quote] Shh... don't tell my wife! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='784919' date='Mar 24 2010, 05:35 PM']Shh... don't tell my wife![/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Well, just back from the hearing test - hearing is good but I have minor 4000hz damage in my left ear which is almost definitely from the drummer's ride cymbal. ER custom plugs ordered, here in 4-6 weeks now all I have to do is confirm the colour I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey1-8 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 [quote name='Toasted' post='798641' date='Apr 7 2010, 01:14 PM']Well, just back from the hearing test - hearing is good but I have minor 4000hz damage in my left ear which is almost definitely from the drummer's ride cymbal. ER custom plugs ordered, here in 4-6 weeks now all I have to do is confirm the colour I want.[/quote] Getting custom plugs is one of the best purchases I've made. Good investment, Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Alex, which filters did you go for? Your band sounds like you'll play at similar levels to mine. Cheers, Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey1-8 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) 25s. I think I could have got away with 15s but I wanted to play it safe. My friend uses 9s but I felt it was better to be slightly over protected. Edited April 7, 2010 by alexharvay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I use ER20's but it might be a idea to scale down the snare, We tested 3 of our drummers and we use the quietest one. The volumes can still push it though and this helps no one...not the band or audience. The drummer plays so much better when he is hitting them...and the take on the song goes up a good few notches but I just wish it wasn't this way round. You would think the drums would be better at a quieter volume, but they aren't..to my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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