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Fretless v Fretted - I'm stuck


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Look - Dude wants a double neck and isn't ashamed to say a lot of it's for the image - good for you son. Let's help him out and when he's done - I want a go!

So - not sure how deft you are at the old woodwork lark but I , for one , would think tring to cut down and glue 2 bodies together sounds like a world of grief.

I have seen it done , but by pro's.

Wondering if someone like Prosebass could knock you the body up - sure there's others.

I would think transporting it might be a headache - as you're a player you've got to think about that.

Lighter weight M/Cs - smaller bridges - keeping the electrics down to a minimum - all will help with the weight - as will as wide a strap as you can get your hands on. I think you accept it'll be heavy and crack on or give up the idea. The idea of a single a/b toggle is sound , you seem to like a fairly simple sound so I'd go for one pup for each neck wired through a P style tone and vol.

In fact I have the stock single coil pup from my 54P reish going begging - you pull this body off one way or another and it's yours , gratis.

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Just seen this on FleaBay

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-DOUBLE-NECK-BASS-GUITAR-AND-FRETLESS-BASS_W0QQitemZ200362418686QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2ea687e1fe&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A7|294%3A50"]FleaBay bass[/url]

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I have to swap basses, I play fretless on one, sometimes two songs in our set (origanils, so 8/9 song set) I have to move quick to make it happen, biggest problem I have is getting the sound on my amp to suit fretless, the output of the Bart pre in my Sei is much higher than my Pedulla, I just got a Boss LS-2 to make the change easier.

Maybe looking at making the chnage happen quicker like I have done is an option?

Good luck finding a solution

T

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[quote name='grumble' post='542384' date='Jul 16 2009, 04:31 PM']Just seen this on FleaBay

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-DOUBLE-NECK-BASS-GUITAR-AND-FRETLESS-BASS_W0QQitemZ200362418686QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2ea687e1fe&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A7|294%3A50"]FleaBay bass[/url][/quote]

Another:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=150359500652"]Twin-Neck Steinberger Clone[/url]

£200 BIN, fitted hard case, proper headless hardware - if the fretless was lined I'd have this myself.

J.

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[quote name='grumble' post='538854' date='Jul 12 2009, 09:49 PM']Get in touch with this Fleabay seller, I sure he will find something to suit :lol:
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-PRO-QUINT-NECK-GUITAR-TRIPLE-and-DOUBLE-NECKS-Xs-5_W0QQitemZ190252730346QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2c4bf247ea&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|293%3A1|294%3A50"]WTF?[/url][/quote]
That thing's preposterous. Assuming the necks are standard 25"-and-a-bit scale, there looks to be a good two feet from the top neck to the bottom neck. So even if you had it strapped on so the 12er was at Mark King height, the fretless would be unreachable. :)

I'm sure I've read somewhere that these "Tennessee" branded instruments are unplayable rubbish... oh yeah, check out the Harmony Central reviews for their [url="http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/brand/Tennessee"]guitars[/url] and [url="http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Electric+Bass/brand/Tennessee"]basses[/url]. I particularly like "I wouldn't rely on this guitar to hold a door open" and "this is the biggest turd I've ever laid my hands on". :rolleyes:

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[quote name='sshorepunk' post='542873' date='Jul 17 2009, 08:21 AM']I have to swap basses, I play fretless on one, sometimes two songs in our set (origanils, so 8/9 song set) I have to move quick to make it happen, biggest problem I have is getting the sound on my amp to suit fretless, the output of the Bart pre in my Sei is much higher than my Pedulla, I just got a Boss LS-2 to make the change easier.

Maybe looking at making the chnage happen quicker like I have done is an option?

Good luck finding a solution

T[/quote]
+1 on this solution.

How long does it take to swap basses? Get a Radial Bassbone (£150ish s/h) and set the eq and level for the two basses so your happy then just kick the button to switch between them.

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[quote]I'm sure I've read somewhere that these "Tennessee" branded instruments are unplayable rubbish... oh yeah, check out the Harmony Central reviews for their guitars and basses. I particularly like "I wouldn't rely on this guitar to hold a door open" and "this is the biggest turd I've ever laid my hands on".[/quote]

Rubbish ! It says on the Fleabay ad that these are 'top quality' instruments. I mean, take one look, they ooze... err something.

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Try this [url="http://www.inspire-instruments.de/"]http://www.inspire-instruments.de/[/url]
this is one bass playable on two sides / just flip from fretted to fretless...
The concept in the last post with switchable fingerboards is an old idea, the so called Switchboard was introduced in the early 80s...

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[quote name='JanSpeeltBas' post='547196' date='Jul 22 2009, 12:17 AM']Try this [url="http://www.inspire-instruments.de/"]http://www.inspire-instruments.de/[/url]
this is one bass playable on two sides / just flip from fretted to fretless...
The concept in the last post with switchable fingerboards is an old idea, the so called Switchboard was introduced in the early 80s...[/quote]

That is one ugly bass though

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[quote name='Count Bassy' post='548482' date='Jul 23 2009, 01:46 AM']That is one ugly bass though[/quote]
Couldn't agree more, but it actually works...I guess they're custom made so another design would be possible?

What about a half fretted bass? Ibanez had one in their Musician range, played by Alphonso Johnson. I think Fernandes
picked up the idea and had it as a custom option. Brown's Guitar Factory (www.brownsguitarfactory.com)makes the "Fretted/less" (demo at:
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-9wY57AZIs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-9wY57AZIs[/url] )
and I just read that Doctor Of The Bass has one made by Doug Wilkes (see my recent Wilkes thread). :)

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You know those stands that electric guitarists have that they will keep an acoustic on it to play at certain times? Well, I have seen them made for basses as well. They would allow you to keep your bass on while playing the one held in the stand.
You could then run both into one of those ToneBone boxes, or perhaps an inexpensive 4 channel mixer, then into your amp.

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[quote name='clauster' post='538713' date='Jul 12 2009, 07:09 PM']A bit OT but just to say Goldie loks fantastic as a fretless.[/quote]
I have to agree with Clauster on this.. why not just get past the whole fret thing, sell the Squier and get LEDs in the fretless board for serious unique showoff stuff? :)

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