GreeneKing Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) I pass Promenade Music in Morecambe to and from work and occasionally pop in to see what gives. The bass guy was off today and the guitar guy was helping out in covering the bass dept. I tried a MIM P bass this afternoon, through a Markbass Jeff Berlin combo. It wasn't set up that well and was pretty meh... Noticing that there was a white US P in the shop I helped myself as the guy had gone upstairs. It was marked as a Jaguar (!) and was reduced to £699. It was also a stupidly light body, so much so that it had a slight neck dive Wow, what can I say. It sounded and played truly superbly. The tone through all it's range was to die for, subtle and rich not just the P thump that I expected. I kept on playing it just for the sheer pleasure of listening to it. Having just sold my Ric I thought kinda hmm... a Fender and me? £699s a lot of dosh but it is quite stunning etc. I asked if there was any chance of a slight price drop (guessing £699 for a US P is pretty low anyway) and was told no but that I'd get a hardcase etc. Then I did a stupid thing, I asked about the label saying 'Jaguar' - doh. Seems wrong label was put on the bass and this particular white P is actually £1799 I'm not sure what model of US P bass goes for this sort of dosh but I've obviously got an expensive taste. It was superb. I'm left wondering if I could have got away with paying £699 for it if I'd have kept my trap shut Edited July 14, 2009 by GreeneKing Quote
bigthumb Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Finally seeing the light Peter? I bet it was one of them American Vintage reissues. They are quite pricey, I'd love to try one myself. Quote
wateroftyne Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Yeah... for that money it *must* have been an AV RI.... still silly money, though. Quote
GreeneKing Posted July 13, 2009 Author Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) They offered a 20% discount but still too rich for me. It was well put together. I now have bloody P GAS Edited September 24, 2009 by GreeneKing Quote
bigthumb Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='GreeneKing' post='539526' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:10 PM']I know have bloody P GAS [/quote] Welcome to my world! Quote
wateroftyne Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='GreeneKing' post='539526' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:10 PM']They offered a 20% discount but still too rich for me. It was well put together. I know have bloody P GAS [/quote] 'Course ya do.. everyone does! They just don't know it yet. Quote
Hot Tub Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Erm... If an item displays an incorrect price which is LOWER than the correct price, then the retailer MUST sell it for the lower price. They are then quite entitled to amend the prices of any other incorrectly labelled items. It's the Sale Of Goods Act, and it's the law. I'm guessing this probably doesn't help. Quote
Steve_nottm Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='Hot Tub' post='539530' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:14 PM']Erm... If an item displays an incorrect price which is LOWER than the correct price, then the retailer MUST sell it for the lower price. They are then quite entitled to amend the prices of any other incorrectly labelled items. It's the Sale Of Goods Act, and it's the law. I'm guessing this probably doesn't help. [/quote] Sorry but that's not right. The price an item is displayed at is what's called an invitation to treat and not a contract offer. The offer is when you offer to buy, which the seller can then accept or reject. Anything priced incorrectly they can just refuse your offer to buy at that price and amend the price. So if they're daft enough to accept your offer to buy at that price, fine. They have no legal obligation to sell at the advertised price though, if it's clearly incorrect. Quote
GreeneKing Posted July 13, 2009 Author Posted July 13, 2009 A seller is also entitled to refuse to serve anyone without giving a reason. It's a fairly well known ploy to swap tags on items. I didn't do it btw Quote
Spartacus Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='Hot Tub' post='539530' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:14 PM']Erm... If an item displays an incorrect price which is LOWER than the correct price, then the retailer MUST sell it for the lower price. They are then quite entitled to amend the prices of any other incorrectly labelled items. It's the Sale Of Goods Act, and it's the law. I'm guessing this probably doesn't help. [/quote] Not true im afraid. If they price it incorrectly you cant force them to sell it to you at the lower price. The precision had a Jaguar price ticket on which is different to being deliberately misleading, in which case its a case for Trading Standards. Quote
danlea Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Hot Tub' post='539530' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:14 PM']Erm... If an item displays an incorrect price which is LOWER than the correct price, then the retailer MUST sell it for the lower price. They are then quite entitled to amend the prices of any other incorrectly labelled items. It's the Sale Of Goods Act, and it's the law.[/quote] I'm pretty certain that doesn't actually fly... A retailer is perfectly within their rights to withdraw any item from sale at any time - they don't [i]have[/i] to sell you anything. You should also note that this item was not actually described correctly with a lower price tag, it had the price tag of a [i]different item[/i]. I'm also fairly confident that upon (or prior to) ringing up the item for sale, the error would have been spotted, so don't kick yourself too hard! Edit: Hah - loads of people got in there before me! Wasted post! Edited July 13, 2009 by danlea Quote
Machines Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Hah ! My Dad ended up walking away from a former large box shifting store (rhymes with Pound Patrol !) with a brand new US Gretsch Firebird 6131 (RRP £1699) for £399. They had it marked as an Electromatic (Made in Korea), he even asked them if it was the right price and they said it was ! We eBayed it a few months later for just under a grand, nice profit there. Some shops deserve to lose money for employing idiots that don't know their posterier from their elbow. [b]EDIT[/b]: Shops do not have to sell for an advertised price or even sell anything at all, it is an invitation to treat: [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat[/url] [size=1](I knew that A-Level Business Studies would come in handy one day !)[/size] Quote
RhysP Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='Machines' post='539551' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:28 PM']My Dad ended up walking away from a former large box shifting store (rhymes with Pound Patrol !) with a brand new US Gretsch Firebird 6131 (RRP £1699) for £399. They had it marked as an Electromatic (Made in Korea), he even asked them if it was the right price and they said it was ![/quote] Now THAT'S what I call a result! Quote
warwickhunt Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='Spartacus' post='539547' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:25 PM']Not true im afraid. If they price it incorrectly you cant force them to sell it to you at the lower price. The precision had a Jaguar price ticket on which is different to being deliberately misleading, in which case its a case for Trading Standards.[/quote] I think I've been beaten to it by several others but to reiterate... this idea that a seller 'has' to let you have an item at a given price, even if they have incorrectly marked it so, is an urban myth. I'd be swinging my foot to try and connect with my backside if I was you though Peter. Quote
EssentialTension Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='GreeneKing' post='539526' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:10 PM']I now have bloody P GAS [/quote] I always have P GAS and I already have two of them. Quote
Musicman20 Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 My P Bass gas has been sorted out. Picked up my new American Series in Sunburst with maple neck...wow. Simply wow! I know the Japanese one I have is pretty good, but this thing blows it away. The maple neck also looks great with the burst I got. Quote
xilddx Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='Hot Tub' post='539530' date='Jul 13 2009, 06:14 PM']Erm... If an item displays an incorrect price which is LOWER than the correct price, then the retailer MUST sell it for the lower price. They are then quite entitled to amend the prices of any other incorrectly labelled items. It's the Sale Of Goods Act, and it's the law. I'm guessing this probably doesn't help. [/quote] Like the others have said, wrong. A price tag means nothing. An invitation to treat, means they can accept, or otherwise, your offer to buy at that price, ie. they are inviting you to offer to buy it. Quote
xilddx Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 At least Peter has a clear conscience with which to drown in a bottle of cheap whisky I'm pride myself with honesty but that would have been a very sore test of it Quote
GreeneKing Posted July 13, 2009 Author Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) I suspect you're right, that's a lot of money to con someone out of although I wouldn't have realised it at the time. Edited July 13, 2009 by GreeneKing Quote
Hot Tub Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='silddx' post='539665' date='Jul 13 2009, 08:21 PM']Like the others have said, wrong. A price tag means nothing. An invitation to treat, means they can accept, or otherwise, your offer to buy at that price, ie. they are inviting you to offer to buy it.[/quote] Okey-dokey.... Maybe it is an urban myth. Will check at work tomorrow... Quote
GreeneKing Posted July 13, 2009 Author Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='Hot Tub' post='539732' date='Jul 13 2009, 09:28 PM']Okey-dokey.... Maybe it is an urban myth. Will check at work tomorrow... [/quote] You still no believe Quote
Hot Tub Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='GreeneKing' post='539753' date='Jul 13 2009, 09:43 PM']You still no believe [/quote] I'd always understood that what I posted was right enough (or I wouldn't have posted it!). I have the resources at hand at work to check for sure. Quote
xilddx Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Hot Tub' post='539732' date='Jul 13 2009, 09:28 PM']Okey-dokey.... Maybe it is an urban myth. Will check at work tomorrow... [/quote] Mate, trust. I, like I suspect others here, studied some contract law. I can dig out the case if you want? Ok I have, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_v_Bell"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_v_Bell[/url] Oh, and Wikipedia is correct in this instance. Cheers, Nigel PS. You can actually get away with your way of thinking due to the ignorance of some shop staff. Edited July 13, 2009 by silddx Quote
BottomEndian Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 [quote name='silddx' post='539665' date='Jul 13 2009, 08:21 PM']Like the others have said, wrong. A price tag means nothing. An invitation to treat, means they can accept, or otherwise, your offer to buy at that price, ie. they are inviting you to offer to buy it.[/quote] All true. But as a side point, according to the Trading Standards guy who visited me, everything [b]has[/b] to have a price clearly displayed. Yes, even if it's the "wrong" price. :wacko: Quote
Mikey R Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='539985' date='Jul 14 2009, 07:27 AM']All true. But as a side point, according to the Trading Standards guy who visited me, everything [b]has[/b] to have a price clearly displayed. Yes, even if it's the "wrong" price. :wacko:[/quote] Huh? I Ive seen tonnes of shops with no price tags - if you have to ask you cant afford. Quote
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