rjb Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Was just wondering about what seems to be a recent trend towards asking for PM offers in the "For Sale" section. I can certainly understand sellers wanting to get the maximum possible for their gear, but doesn't this practice risk turning the the "For Sale" section into more of a "Sealed-bid Auctions" area? I have no particular axe to grind, but I'd love to hear everyone's views.... Edited September 8, 2009 by rjb Quote
BigBeefChief Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 The moderators actively encourage auctions so its definitely not against forum rules. Quote
LukeFRC Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 my warwick is for sale. untill i asked clever people I didn't know how much for, if someone had PM'ed me with an offer before i fixed a price I liked then they would have got it. That offer may have been more than the price I fixed or it could have been less. Or someone may have wanted to say "well i have a X bass and can also add £Y" if you want. I could have said, yes please! or maybe 'thanks but no thanks' Quote
KennysFord Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='593200' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:34 PM']The moderators actively encourage auctions so its definitely not against forum rules.[/quote] Oh dear..... Quote
Dood Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='593200' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:34 PM']The moderators actively encourage auctions so its definitely not against forum rules.[/quote] Expect a PM re: Baiting. I am upping your warning level. Quote
Tait Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) here we go again Edited September 8, 2009 by Tait Quote
velvetkevorkian Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 It bugs me but I usually just send a PM asking what price they're after- if they can't give one I'll usually be on my way. Quote
phil_the_bassist Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 I have to admit, I'd rather someone put a ballpark figure and ask for 'offers around £x' so I know whether it's in my price-range, whether I've got appropriate stuff to offer as a p/x +cash etc etc. but other than that, if that's the way someone wants to sell it then so be it! *settles in to watch this thread unravel * Quote
Musky Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='phil_the_bassist' post='593215' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:45 PM']I have to admit, I'd rather someone put a ballpark figure and ask for 'offers around £x' so I know whether it's in my price-range, whether I've got appropriate stuff to offer as a p/x +cash etc etc. but other than that, if that's the way someone wants to sell it then so be it! *settles in to watch this thread unravel *[/quote] +1 Asking for offers kind of assumes that people have an idea of the value, and they're sitting waiting for an example of the bass to come up. That might be the case sometimes, but I'd imagine a lot of people are just looking for a decent bass that appeals to them within their budget. Quote
rjb Posted September 8, 2009 Author Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Uh oh, so this has cropped up before, then? If this thread is going to get nasty then I won't argue if it gets nuked... Edited September 8, 2009 by rjb Quote
Kev Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 i have never made an offer on an item for sale without the seller giving me an indication of what he/she is looking for, and i have never sold an item to a buyer without letting them know what i am expecting. Pm's are of course fine for trade offers, but for cash offers its not what i like to get involved in, i go ebay for that. Quote
LukeFRC Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='Musky' post='593223' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:53 PM']+1 Asking for offers kind of assumes that people have an idea of the value, and they're sitting waiting for an example of the bass to come up. That might be the case sometimes, but I'd imagine a lot of people are just looking for a decent bass that appeals to them within their budget.[/quote] problem is if the seller has no real idea of value either Quote
wateroftyne Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Personally, I think if a seller wants to do that then it's fine. It might not help them sell it, mind you... Quote
Golchen Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 No price and I'm not interested. People should just Man up and stick a tag on it. Quote
Bassassin Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 This did come up quite recently - over an eye-wateringly overpriced JV Precision. Realistically most common mid-range basses on here seem to sell for about £30 - £50 less than their corresponding Ebay prices. It's not too hard to work out a reasonable price for most things IMO. Jon. Quote
vmaxblues Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 I also agree that putting a price up is the best way to go and it can be really frustrating when people don't. Talking of trends I also note a lot of newbies jumping into the sale section Quote
deaver Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 I can never understand why this always ends in a dust up. It doesn't bother me which way people want to price or sell. The only reason against not putting a price on your sale is that you'll get a numbskull offer. And that offer will most likely come from me. Quote
Johngh Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 If I sell a bass on here I always include a price. I agree with Deaver though that you will always get a totally unrealistic offer from some body. Nothing wrong with that I suppose as long as they can accept a very firm no! Quote
Eight Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 I'd also never dream of making someone an offer without a rough idea of their hopes/expectations for the sale. If you have some kind of figure in mind then it's just easier for everyone if you put it out there as a guide. E.g. I'd like around £500 but offers are most welcome. Quote
thebeat Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='Golchen' post='593273' date='Sep 8 2009, 08:51 PM']No price and I'm not interested. People should just Man up and stick a tag on it.[/quote] +1 Quote
thisnameistaken Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 I just ignore ads where the seller knows what he wants but won't say what it is. I don't see the point in all this "PM me it's a secret" nonsense. Quote
Prosebass Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='593200' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:34 PM']The moderators actively encourage auctions so its definitely not against forum rules.[/quote] you'll need one of these soon........ [attachment=32489:200_hsas_chart.jpg] Quote
skankdelvar Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Well, there's no rule against offers, 'sort of' auctions, trades + cash with the required amount unspecified or, indeed, demands for sexual favours. Personally, I don't bother reading offers ads because I assume the seller will probably want more than I'm willing to pay. There's logic for you... Quote
steve-soar Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 Please don't stop Shaun from posting. Quote
waynepunkdude Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='steve-soar' post='593446' date='Sep 8 2009, 11:31 PM']Please don't stop Shaun from posting. [/quote] +1 Quote
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