basscantdothat Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hi, I'm a long time Trace Elliot fan but have never been able to own one unfortunately and now it looks like I'll have to buy a used one or go the DIY route. Does anyone know particularly what Celestion 10's you'd find in a 1028H cab or more importantly what those 4 inch bass horns are? My biggest selling feature of the Trace Cabs were the dual 4 inch bass horns which have now been replaced by a standard horn - I haven't tried it but I'm fearing that the single horn couldn't possibly put out the same beautiful mids that those dual 4 inch bass horns could. So what are they? And is Peavey just going cheap on their Trace Elliot builds and making them the same as everything else out there or is this actually technology moving forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Celestion custom made speakers from Trace from about 1988 I think, so you'd be hard pushed to find exact models thesedays. The 5" mid driver, I know nothing about, but the '90s HF horns were all Fostex I beleive (and bloody awful IMO!) The Peavey stuff is really good - the speaker cabs are the best Trace cabs I've heard (again, my opinion only). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 [quote name='basscantdothat' post='594325' date='Sep 9 2009, 09:35 PM']My biggest selling feature of the Trace Cabs were the dual 4 inch bass horns which have now been replaced by a standard horn...[/quote] You don't mean the ports do you? Because the only TE cab I can remember with dual horn tweeters was the BFC. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscantdothat Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 Maybe I do mean the ports but I swear I read in writing one time that they were "4 inch bass horns". [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26162"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26162[/url] - this thread, neilb's post on the first page of the thread, 2nd post - two big holes between the 10 inch speakers. [quote]'90s HF horns were all Fostex I beleive (and bloody awful IMO!)[/quote] That might be relative to playing style and what you expect to get out of your cabinet. I've found with 90's and 00's trace elliots that I can't find a cab that'll handle the high range of the bass as clearly or as beautifully as trace. I play a semi classical style with a lot of long ringing notes and finger picked chording. It sounds like mud through the wrong rig and the average tweeter doesn't seem to like it. But I won't be a fan boy and say trace elliot is the best. I do however love trace elliot and prefer them since they suit my style the best of any cabs I've tried so far. (Yet I've never owned one - just played them for hours and hours in music stores with numerous basses) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Yes, they're the ports - just lows coming out of them! Plenty of stuff on the market now with equal clarity, though back in the day they were certainly ahead of their time. If you like highs but don't like most tweeters then you need to hear some cabs with steeper crossovers which integrate the tweeter more seamlessly and protect it from lows better (thus lowering THD and IMD) and/or cabs with midrange drivers. Last rehearsal my guitarist asked why I wasn't a guitarist as I was strumming various chordal things. I guess my bass is a bass guitar after all... Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscantdothat Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 [quote name='alexclaber' post='595032' date='Sep 10 2009, 11:12 AM']Last rehearsal my guitarist asked why I wasn't a guitarist as I was strumming various chordal things. I guess my bass is a bass guitar after all... Alex[/quote] I've been asked that ever since I got good on bass. And every practice I would hear three things from schooled and self taught musicians alike "bass doesn't do that", "bass can't do that" (hence my username), to which I'd respond "it just did" and my most hated phrase, "we need you to lay down a solid beat, could you just play quarter notes?". That's not actually a beat - that's a rhythmic pulse... go get a synthesizer. I think the guitar players really just need to stop w***ing and realize that they're part of a "band". Hi Guitarists *waves* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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