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Any UK-based luthiers doing "relicing" treatments?


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[quote name='Paul_C' post='63743' date='Sep 21 2007, 07:00 PM']I did it to a Tanglewood P Bass copy a while ago, but didn't take pics before I got shot of it - I would have no problems repeating the process though :)[/quote]
Paul, what did that process involve? Or is it a trade secret? :ph34r:

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[quote name='7string' post='63859' date='Sep 21 2007, 11:00 PM']I remember reading about Bravewood basses who did that kind of thing... Not sure if it was only for their own instruments or if ti's a service though..[/quote]


No, Bravewood don't offer it as a service, it's in the FAQ section

[url="http://www.bravewoodguitars.co.uk/"]http://www.bravewoodguitars.co.uk/[/url]

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I'm not too good on the jargon, but if you mean artificially ageing your bass then yes, there are still people who'll do that for you. There's a guy I know in Denmark Street who can make a 90's Les Paul look [i]very[/i] convincingly like a 60's guitar ... but I'm struggling with the ethics of the whole thing!

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Heres a 70 page pdf guide to DIY relicing (using a gui*ar but the process would be the same for bass)that should help

[url="http://www.ibanezpodxt.com/RelicTutorial.pdf"]http://www.ibanezpodxt.com/RelicTutorial.pdf[/url]

Its a very good read and has some great tips and tricks

Hope that help and plz keep us upto date if you decide to DIY it

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Thanks for the input. I'm aware this is a controversial move for a lot of people, which is why I was trying to avoid a "should I relic my bass" thread. It was just a passing whim, I doubt I'll do it, I just love the look of the aged P.

Regards


Mike

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[quote name='Mike' post='64593' date='Sep 24 2007, 07:21 AM']I just love the look of the aged P.[/quote]
Just a suggestion - have a look at a sunburst highway 1 Precision. It has a thin soft lacquer, you'll put your own playing wear into it after a while - obviously not as immediate as attacking it with tools, but with a bit of patience and a lot of playing it will show "honest" mojo a lot sooner than a poly finished instrument.

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Mike, I owned, albeit a long time ago, a Fender Custom Shop Jaco relic. It felt and, oddly, even looked new, it was all wrong. It was certainly nothing like that awesome late 60's fretless jazz you've got, and nothing like my 73 Precision. Real wear and tear is just too chance and chaotic to be done deliberately I think. My gut instinct is that if the guys at the FCS can't get a relic job right on a bass that retails for over £3000, not many other people will be able to either (apologies to Paul C who I'm sure can do a relic job equal to anyone out there). I guess what I'm saying is that I've seen about 10-15 relics and none looked like they'd ever been played and all looked like the ringers they are. I also think that the whole relic thing, which is, after all, naffnes in the extreme really, will probably go out of fashion, rendering them bloody hard to sell in future. I think the point above about paint is also very important, I'm no expert but there are finishes that clearly wear quickly and those that don't at all, which is perhaps why some relics look so wrong.
Chris

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Sir you need the services of Dave Dearnaley just around the corner from me.
[url="http://www.shedpickups.co.uk/asp/product.asp?product=107&cat=40&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT_ID="]http://www.shedpickups.co.uk/asp/product.a...For=&PT_ID=[/url]
029 20462953.

He has been cited as the best man at this by Guitarist mag amongst others and the last review I read of reliced basses was using his work as the benchmark.

The constant fug of "jazz club cigarette" smoke that hangs inside his workshop is an integral part of the process :)

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[quote name='steve' post='65295' date='Sep 25 2007, 01:16 PM']wear a belt with a buckle, a hoodie with zip pockets and (if you're into metal) studded wristbands when you practice[/quote]

These are all good for speeding up the process. You can also selotape fine-grade sand paper to your right arm and make sand paper gloves to wear whilst practicing. Don't use stuff that's too course though, else it won't look natural.

This kind of belt buckle will work a treat - [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/American-Eagle-Belt-and-Buckle_W0QQitemZ290162095406QQihZ019QQcategoryZ1060QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/American-Eagle-Belt-...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

As steve mentioned, if you're into metal, studded wristbands help. I recommend this- [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-ROW-NEON-PINK-STUDDED-WRISTBAND-EMO-SKATE-PUNK-ROCK_W0QQitemZ180160638287QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1063QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-ROW-NEON-PINK-STUD...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

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[quote name='thumbo' post='65320' date='Sep 25 2007, 01:43 PM']As steve mentioned, if you're into metal, studded wristbands help. I recommend this- [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-ROW-NEON-PINK-STUDDED-WRISTBAND-EMO-SKATE-PUNK-ROCK_W0QQitemZ180160638287QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1063QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-ROW-NEON-PINK-STUD...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url][/quote]

...and you could get in touch with your feminine side at the same time

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Okay, well, despite not wanting this to turn into a "why would you do something like that" thread, it sort of has.

The situation is this: I have a few basses which I use as my main tools - 75 Jazz, Warwick Streamer Stg I, forthcoming Shuker, now a Ken Smith BT6.

The Sting is a bit of fun that I have - it's a one trick pony (though a very nice trick) and it's been snazzed up with a new pickup, pickguard and chrome covers. I just thought I might get it looking old too. I'm not obsessed with it - I have two vintage fenders, both naturally distressed, so I could get my kicks from them. It was just a bit of a project I was thinking of.

Thanks for your input. Appreciate the PMs and posts with info - much obliged.


Mike

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