matt_citizenbass Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 FML. is often so boring (they sound made up) but you get some real gems in there! Quote
skankdelvar Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Run two rigs. One hideously distorted and one clean. Adjust each volume to blend the tones. It's what us old boys used to do before multi-fx. Quote
dannybuoy Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 That's definitely one of the best solutions. Although to avoid phase canellation it's a good idea to filter the lows out of the dirty rig. I really like the se clips of the Orange Tiny Terror: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=560354"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=560354[/url] Quote
markdavid Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 [quote name='matt_citizenbass' post='610508' date='Sep 28 2009, 01:16 AM']i basically want to sound like Kurt Ballou ( guitarist fom converge) but on bass. preferably not really expensive. Preferably no bass loss. i want a pedal that also feedsback nicely as apposed to squeal annoyingly which my current distortion does right now. no fuzzes. I play a lot of chords and i need the sound to be still detailed but heavy as hell. has anyone got any pedal recomendations? cheers, Matt[/quote] When I read the title of this thread the 1st pedal I thought of was the Boss ODB-3 but you said you dont want fuzz so that may be a no go (ODB-3 is kinda fuzzy sounding) Quote
yorick Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) Hughes and Kettner Overlord pedal....... Edit for dunceness.... It's a Dean Markley OVERLORD pedal!!! Edited September 29, 2009 by yorick Quote
umph Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 [quote name='matt_citizenbass' post='611098' date='Sep 28 2009, 06:25 PM']what does that mean? i guess it might not be my distortion but i've had it through every amp i've played through . I guess it could be my single jazz pickup? in terms of tone. I'm not keen on valve amps, i've had a soundcity 120B and its lovely but not exactly for me. Plus i use about 30% clean sound so i need to have that of being able to go back to crisp and delicate... if ya get me.... a DHA has always appealed to me, how far gain can they go? would anyone care to share some soundclips?[/quote] did you sell that 120 to greene king? valve amps don't have to be dirty, have it running for distortion and use your volume knob to dial in a cleaner sound, either that or don't play as hard! Quote
cm261 Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 I have a Tech21 XXL Bass edition. Not too expensive and is capable of some brutal distortion Quote
cheddatom Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 If you want mental distortion and clarity then blending is the way to go. I would recommend you get a compressor to stick in one loop, and have it always on. Then have the other loop alternate between clean and mental distortion as you turn the dirt pedal off and on. Quote
ase_one23 Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) i suspect it's more down to recording techniques also, i've seen them live twice and the guitar is awesome but not got that brutality that u can hear on the records, particularly no heroes - this is helpful tho: [url="http://acapella.harmony-central.com/archive/index.php/t-1540231.html"]a vaguely insightful discussion[/url] Edited September 30, 2009 by ase_one23 Quote
nash Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 some of the tone will be tape distortion. just like Cursed Quote
ase_one23 Posted October 4, 2009 Posted October 4, 2009 saw [url="http://www.bass.se/2009/metaldrive.htm"]this[/url] , heard the samples, thought of this thread. Quote
Kev Posted October 4, 2009 Posted October 4, 2009 [quote name='dannybuoy' post='611206' date='Sep 28 2009, 08:16 PM'] No idea who Kurt Ballou or Converge are (you should post some clips) but this is pretty ridiculous yet defined! [url="http://www.tonefactor.com/proddetail.php?prod=DirtyBomb"]$120 delivered[/url] (plus you won't get hit by customs charges )[/quote] sounds like thats a pedal for active basses, it sounds bloody awful with the P bass IMO. I like it when GAS gets killed Quote
umph Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 [quote name='ase_one23' post='616799' date='Oct 4 2009, 08:10 PM']saw [url="http://www.bass.se/2009/metaldrive.htm"]this[/url] , heard the samples, thought of this thread.[/quote] could do with a blend on that just to retain some definition, the first four clips sound terrible haha. props on them using electric wizard riffs to demo it though! Quote
martindupras Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I have five distortions on my pedalboard. Here are my personal recommendations. 1) Gallien Krueger Diesel Dawg. I couldn't live without it. It's discontinued, enormous, heavy and very difficult to find. I've been trying to track down a spare for a while. If you find one, buy it. If it's not for you, sell it to me. 2) SansAmp Bass Driver and DI. In my view you can use this one either as a "colouring pedal" that will give a sort of SVT-ish tone to your sound, or as an overdrive. I particularly like the GK Diesel Dawg into the BDDI. 3) Digitech Bass Driver Overdrive/Distortion. Your mileage will vary with this one, but I like it as a sort of darker-sounding, more rounded alternative to the GKDD. 4) Electro-Harmonix Bass Big Muff. It's a big muff, but it doesn't steal your low-end. Good for what a big muff does. 5) Boss Bass Overdrive. I don't really like it, the range of tones is very limited and most settings sound like a bee in a jar. With very little drive and more gain and a good tweak of the EQ it is usable sparingly. Here are some that have been on the pedalboard on and off: Boss Turbo-Distortion (DS-2?): robs too much low-end. Boss HM-2: love it on guitar, just about usable on bass with serious tweaking of the EQ. Good in a high-passed effects loop. Boss OD-20: It's a modelling pedal, some of the models might appeal to you. Love it on guitar but on bass: meh. DOD gonkulator. Discontinued, and rare as horse sh*t. If you want to make really horrible noises, this is it. It will make everything messy and out of tune. Probably not what you want. Hope that will be of help to someone. - martin Quote
ase_one23 Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) [quote name='umph' post='617371' date='Oct 5 2009, 01:10 PM']could do with a blend on that just to retain some definition, the first four clips sound terrible haha. props on them using electric wizard riffs to demo it though![/quote] horses for courses - the 1st 4 were my fav!!!!!! incidentally i notice you do the mammothsound pedals - i'll be in touch next month about one of those lofi - style ones you do!!!! Edited October 5, 2009 by ase_one23 Quote
Kev Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 oh man that EBS MetalDrive sounds horrible in such a good way! gasss Quote
Metal-Mariachi Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Hmm how about one of OLC’s pedals? [url="http://www.olcircuits.com/olcpedals.html"]http://www.olcircuits.com/olcpedals.html[/url] You got your Orange, Marshal, Soldano, Highwatt etc in a box. One of those just may do the trick MM Quote
whimsy23 Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I too need a good distortion pedal as the ODB3 is a bit pants. Those MetalDrive clips are a a tad muffly aren't they? Maybe it's just the recording, the pedal sounds like it has potential. Quote
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