basss Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hello, I was trying to use 3 and 4 fingers in my right hand to pluck and was wondering, which way is the most effective way to play? Pinky, ring, middle, index or the other way round? Also, have you got any exercises to help me coordinate this with my left hand across strings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvetkevorkian Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I've been using three fingers (Ring, middle index) for a few years now. I could never get the pinky consistent enough with the other fingers, although I've recently been working on using the thumb. As far as practice exercises go, all I can say is start slowly, use a metronome and just play what you play normally. Make sure you can play it perfectly slow before speeding up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyratm Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I use 3 fingers too. I usually start with my ring finger then middle then index etc. I just started playing some stuff slowly (trying to only use the ring finger to make it get used to actually be used!) then got more speed. Annoyingly my pinky sticks out like i'm the queen having a cup of tea or something when i do it. Cue lots of mocking from my other half and my old band. Hahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I use mostly two fingers but sometimes I use 3 fingers or thumb and two fingers. The most effective way is to use the natural motion of the hand-which for me is ring,middle,index. The best way to coordinate is to just practice string crossing-try playing scales in different intervals like 3rd's or 6th's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvetkevorkian Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Also, if you're having trouble with strict alternation, number your fingers (in your head!) and say the numbers out loud as you play. Makes you feel like a tit but it does work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samkeen Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Matt Garrison and Hardien Feraud are using their thumbs to very good effect as well as multiple fingers. If you're using three fingers on the right make up lots of exercises using different numbers of notes in the left hand. A chromatic scale playing four notes per string will have you changing string on a different finger each time. You'll soon see what's most comfortable for you. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basss Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thanks. I was surprised how much it helps to number your fingers, I am progressing quickly now thanks to this tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcrow Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 [quote name='basss' post='611241' date='Sep 28 2009, 08:51 PM']Hello, I was trying to use 3 and 4 fingers in my right hand to pluck and was wondering, which way is the most effective way to play? Pinky, ring, middle, index or the other way round? Also, have you got any exercises to help me coordinate this with my left hand across strings?[/quote] i started with just the one...index and my thumb resting...believe this...on the top of the bass... a rick then i got the thumb down on the pup area and started to practice just 2 fingers eventually i got loosened up...a year or so and used 3 i dont or havent really found use for the pinkie....i dont slap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottomfeed Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) After hearing Percy Jones playing in Brand X when I was younger, I tried to fake his fast flurries of notes by using 3 fingers ... [i](usually in the order of - ring, middle, index)[/i] ...over time, I've kinda got more accurate with it & it's become incorporated into my 'style' ...like these things do... trying to copy things you've heard that tickle your bass bone, so to speak....perhaps falling a bit short of the mark!.... but what you end up with is your[i] unique[/i] 'style' Percy Jones has since made a video, with detailed information on how he does what he does ....with his three fingers! you can see him talking about his right hand technique [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCBrSAcrm0M&feature=related"]HERE[/url] (Check out from about 7.12) Still a great bass player, in my view [i](although not exactly 'Mr Personality' on this video!)[/i] Edited September 30, 2009 by bottomfeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I think using multiple fingers is considered to be more advantageous than it actually is. The idea is that if you're using more fingers, then you can play faster (via division of labour between the fingers). However the drawback is that the movements are more complicated and therefore require more effort to learn and get right (for example, three fingers means you need to get comfortable crossing strings with 3 fingers instead of 2, comfortable starting riffs on 3 different fingers instead of 2, etc). People choose to learn multiple finger techniques and put significantly more effort into their 'x' finger technique than they did their 2 finger technique, simply because of the attitude that 'I will be quicker as a result, this technique is just a little awkward to start with'. I'm a firm believer that if you take that attitude with two fingers, you can achieve similar amounts of speed with a simpler technique. I adopted and still use the Matt Garrison 4 finger technique, but then also put the same amount of time into advancing my two finger technique (ala Hanon I've mentioned in other threads). Nevertheless, I totally acknowledge that using multiple fingers provides great endurance benefits that 2 fingers don't quite achieve. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNkShUi Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 [quote name='bottomfeed' post='613478' date='Oct 1 2009, 12:33 AM']Still a great bass player, in my view [i](although not exactly 'Mr Personality' on this video!)[/i][/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I started with two (index, middle) when I first started having lessons. Then moved to using three (index, middle, ring) when I found myself between bands with a lot of time to practice my technique. I don't think it necessarily meant that I could play faster, but matching the same speed felt like a lot less effort. Only pit-fall is that I find myself playing triplets if I'm noodling or composing my own stuff as it feels natural when using 3 fingers. I do alternate subconsciously between 2 and 3 fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 *nod* Good point pete. Certain techniques lend themselves to particular playing styles... which is bad if that's the only one you know, but great if you can use lots of techniques! With the four finger technique, I found my timing improved massively for fast runs, but then for comparatively slower lines I found my timing was still a little bit too 'rigid' as compared to using 2 fingers. So I tend to use it as a higher 'gear' so to speak; two fingers for almost everything, four fingers for those exceedingly fast sustained runs. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILD FROG SHOT Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 [quote name='peted' post='613672' date='Oct 1 2009, 11:10 AM']I started with two (index, middle) when I first started having lessons. Then moved to using three (index, middle, ring) when I found myself between bands with a lot of time to practice my technique. I don't think it necessarily meant that I could play faster, but matching the same speed felt like a lot less effort. Only pit-fall is that I find myself playing triplets if I'm noodling or composing my own stuff as it feels natural when using 3 fingers. I do alternate subconsciously between 2 and 3 fingers.[/quote] A-ha! Someone else who uses I,M,R! Thought I was the only one there for a minute. I know exactly what you mean about the triplets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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