EssentialTension Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='655579' date='Nov 15 2009, 11:34 PM']Ooh, kinky! [/quote] I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'm also now hoping that the CV I've ordered isn't too light! My Am standard is 9.4lbs ish.....and that is just fine. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 [quote name='Sibob' post='656380' date='Nov 16 2009, 08:42 PM']I'm also now hoping that the CV I've ordered isn't too light! My Am standard is 9.4lbs ish.....and that is just fine. Si[/quote] The MIA Jazz that I used to have was over 10lbs - great sound though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 How does the weight affect the sound ? Or is that another thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) [quote name='redstriper' post='656463' date='Nov 16 2009, 09:45 PM']How does the weight affect the sound ? Or is that another thread ?[/quote] Heavier basses do seem to have a fuller tone and more sustain, but that could be a sweeping generalisation on my part! There are so many variables, such as string height versus pickups, pickup winding quality, etc, etc. It literally varies from bass to bass, even if they're the same model from the same manufacturer. If it's any consolation, every CV Jazz I've played has been a corker. Not seen a bad one yet! Edited November 16, 2009 by OutToPlayJazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 So mine arrived today! A very brief summary: I'm at work, so can't do too much with it, played it through an ampeg combo and is seems great, needs a bit of a setup, but not because it's bad by any means, just for my personal preferences. The finish of the bass is amazing, easily compares to my Am standard, the tinted neck looks fantastic compared to the (sometimes) aneamic maple of other cheap basses. Just playing it acoustically I'd say my Am S feels a little more 'solid'. Think the Squier is a tad lighter, but nothing too noticeable. The pots/knobs are solid, perhaps more-so than my US, but then that has been gigged a LOT, and this Squier is straight from Fender. My Am seems to have a bit more versatility with the volume and tone controls when blending them with each other, the neck pickup volume of the Squier almost seems either on or off....but we'll see! Overall thoughts, very impressed. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 Congrats, Si. Hope you enjoy it. Where's my commission, Fender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Is there a 5-string Squier jazz? Blowed if I can see one on the website. fatback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I have one of these: [url="http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0300575500"]http://www.squierguitars.com/products/sear...rtno=0300575500[/url] And again, very good for the money!! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 [quote name='Sibob' post='657076' date='Nov 17 2009, 03:15 PM']I have one of these: [url="http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0300575500"]http://www.squierguitars.com/products/sear...rtno=0300575500[/url] And again, very good for the money!! Si[/quote] Thanks! Can't imagine why I didn't find that. Wonder what they'd be like with a J-retro or the like. fatback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I think that maybe the preamp is the weakest link in it's chain, although is still usuable. I do think though that Fender haven't made a nice preamp in a while.......or ever lol. The Fender passive sound is superb though. Might even take my Squier Deluxe 5 passive and change the pickups Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 [quote name='Sibob' post='657099' date='Nov 17 2009, 03:30 PM']I think that maybe the preamp is the weakest link in it's chain, although is still usuable. I do think though that Fender haven't made a nice preamp in a while.......or ever lol. The Fender passive sound is superb though. Might even take my Squier Deluxe 5 passive and change the pickups Si[/quote] What's weak about the current pups? fatback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Nothing wrong with them when coupled with the preamp, but I just get the feeling they might be a bit underpowered if run passive. I might be wrong. To be honest, I don't use it enough to start a big mod project, the pre is fine for what I want.....but if more gigging happened with it, I'd perhaps look at more options. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 In fact, I think a guy on here had the same bass, left the preamp as it was and swapped the p'ups for some Nordstrands, and wasn't particulaly inpressed with the improvement-to-cost ratio. Perhaps suggesting that the pickups would benifit from a better pre, rather than the other way around. Difficult to say Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 [quote name='Sibob' post='657166' date='Nov 17 2009, 04:30 PM']In fact, I think a guy on here had the same bass, left the preamp as it was and swapped the p'ups for some Nordstrands, and wasn't particulaly inpressed with the improvement-to-cost ratio. Perhaps suggesting that the pickups would benifit from a better pre, rather than the other way around. Difficult to say Si[/quote] A dumb question, but can you fit a preamp onboard in a passive model jazz squier? I have no idea how much room those things take up. Just that if I bought a squier meaning to mod it, would I need to buy active version. fatback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Depends on the size of the control cavity. Some basses have enough space for something like an Aguiler pre and a 9v, some you can barely fit mini-pots in. If you're interested in going down that route on a passive, it might be worth asking the person in the shop/who owns the bass if they would mind showing you the cavity before you buy it to see what space you have to play with. Luthiers are of course able to rout out more cavity for space, but it's all money huh! And so with all that in mind, if you fully intend on adding a preamp to a bass, it's probably worth starting with an active bass, just because that's what the cavity was designed for. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Great advice Sibob, thanks. I feel a 5-er with a jazz type neck coming on, but hadn't befrore thought of modding a squier V. Hmm. fatback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 You can usually fit the smaller ones into the control cavity okay, but sometimes need to rout out the cavity a little more to compensate for the size of the 9V battery. Some will rout out a specialized battery cavity in the back as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='658019' date='Nov 18 2009, 12:47 PM']You can usually fit the smaller ones into the control cavity okay, but sometimes need to rout out the cavity a little more to compensate for the size of the 9V battery. Some will rout out a specialized battery cavity in the back as well.[/quote] I have to say, the 'routing' word makes me nervous! fatback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 That's why I have the outboard Sadowsky preamp. No need to modify my bass & I can still play it passive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroman Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 If it's any help, I've just fitted the active EMG J set to my Squier Jazz, with no problems. 9V battery fitted easily inside the cavity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buff Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Also done the same mod on a VM jazz, no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 [quote name='buff' post='658434' date='Nov 18 2009, 07:26 PM']Also done the same mod on a VM jazz, no problems.[/quote] Those Squiers were passive, ie small cavity? fatback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 [quote name='fatback' post='659012' date='Nov 19 2009, 10:56 AM']Those Squiers were passive, ie small cavity? fatback[/quote] Well seemingly there was enough space for a battery & preamp. Lots of people mod passive basses with preamps without needing a woodwork. Not all passive basses have tiny cavities, all I'm saying is, it's probably better to check what space a bass has if it doesn't have a preamp to start with. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buff Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Still all fits no problem, battery sits just under the input jack with a couple of milimeters to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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