Who would pay £10,000 for this bass?

[lojo]

Just wondering who would really buy this (a investing collector, a rich musician?), I have no clue to the worth or market for such an instrument

I know I have had some strange gear choices over the years, but would this really interest anyone?




[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FENDER-1962-JAZZ-BASS-OLYMPIC-WHITE-MATCHING-HEADSTOCK_W0QQitemZ390103274743QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item5ad3f794f7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_867wt_941"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FENDER-1962-JAZZ-BAS...14#ht_867wt_941[/url]

[The Burpster]

.........no it would not.

10k for well used albeit original J is obscene by anyones standards. Bets of jolly british luck to the seller!

[wateroftyne]

An investing collector, or a rich musician.

Or a rich musician who collects basses and is looking for an investment.

Seriously, though - these things aren't aimed at the likes of you & I. There are people out there who will buy them, though.

[lozbass]

Personally, certainly not in the current market (I think £6k would be the outside - I really wouldn't pay that either). Someone with much superior knowledge of Fenders will know - why no paint stick mark in the neck pocket (and is that a shim I see)?

[arabassist]

you might as well just buy a squier CV

[OutToPlayJazz]

[quote name='arabassist' post='622925' date='Oct 11 2009, 10:30 AM']you might as well just buy a squier CV[/quote]

I was just about to say the same thing. It looks like my CV with covers on and a lot of use. Will I be able to flog my CV for ten grand when I'm 87, then?

Seriously though, you could buy nearly all the basses in my signature for that kind of money. Ridiculous!

[wateroftyne]

[quote name='arabassist' post='622925' date='Oct 11 2009, 10:30 AM']you might as well just buy a squier CV[/quote]
Sure, if you're on a budget and you want a perfectly decent bass to play.

If you're loaded and you want something which is a bit of Fender history, that's going to be worth even stupider money in 10 years' time, the Squier CV might not be the best choice though.

It always puzzles me when threads like this appear. Paying silly money for old collectable things, musical or not, is a practice that has been going on forever.

[bigthumb]

If I had the kind of money which allowed me to buy a bass like that I'd have it. People pay a fortune for questionable works of 'art' and buy new cars and loose thousands as the drive it out the showroom. Its a great investment piece.

[henry norton]

It's not an 'instrument' price, it's an 'antique' price and as most serious collectors will have a pretty good idea of the value of a 62 Jazz then it will go if it's the right price but it won't if it's not. I'd be shocked if ten grand [i]was[/i] the going rate for one of these but if it's any consolation, whoever ends up buying this won't get any pleasure out of playing it.

[4000]

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='622947' date='Oct 11 2009, 10:50 AM']Sure, if you're on a budget and you want a perfectly decent bass to play.

If you're loaded and you want something which is a bit of Fender history, that's going to be worth even stupider money in 10 years' time, the Squier CV might not be the best choice though.

It always puzzles me when threads like this appear. Paying silly money for old collectable things, musical or not, is a practice that has been going on forever.[/quote]

Absolutely +1.

[Stacker]

Wait a minute - have you seen the price these things go for in the 'States? I've seen them go for more than that, esp the stack-knob Jazz with the dampers!

Having said that, I think the vintage market is full of holes these days in that if you do see a bit of kit that can be proven to be 100% original, then it will attract this kind of offer tag, if not a customer.

You'd be better off chucking your money at John at Bravewood and leaving the other 8K sitting in the bank!

Edited October 11, 2009 by Stacker

[JimBobTTD]

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='622941' date='Oct 11 2009, 11:38 AM'][...] Will I be able to flog my CV for ten grand when I'm 87, then?

[...][/quote]

That depends on how old you are now! But probably, yes. I can see today's cheapies going for £10k in 60 years. Of course, at that point, a loaf of bread will be £1k, a pint of milk £850...

[MB1]

MB1.
...."One Mans Vintage! Is Another Mans Firewood!"....

[wesfinn]

the seller is new kings road guitar shop in london, they specialise in selling vintage and rare instruments silly high prices. they have a few nice old fenders on ebay at the moment but they are always over priced. you could probably haggle it down a fair bit.. but theres always someone out there with more money than sense who won't question the price.

if i had the money i'd definitly buy it!

[supabock]

[quote name='wesfinn' post='623028' date='Oct 11 2009, 12:38 PM']the seller is new kings road guitar shop in london, they specialise in selling vintage and rare instruments silly high prices. they have a few nice old fenders on ebay at the moment but they are always over priced. you could probably haggle it down a fair bit.. but theres always someone out there with more money than sense who won't question the price.

if i had the money i'd definitly buy it![/quote]

I actually played this bass about three weekas ago and it plays remarkably well with a nice tone. It has that beaten up used feel to it also but not a dog to play like others i have tried. As for the 10k tag on the bass, well its difficult to say what it is that attracts such a price, apart from apealing to the "I've just got to have it " type of person. In todays climate i really wouldn't know its value but having said that i would find it hard to understand that price on any bass, that just plays ok and sounds as it should.

Steve

[OutToPlayJazz]

Yes, I think it's literally twice the price it should be. The Gallery had a nice '64 Jazz in last time I was there a few weeks ago & that was only £4500.

[alanbass1]

[quote name='lozbass' post='622919' date='Oct 11 2009, 10:23 AM']Personally, certainly not in the current market (I think £6k would be the outside - I really wouldn't pay that either). Someone with much superior knowledge of Fenders will know - why no paint stick mark in the neck pocket (and is that a shim I see)?[/quote]

Fender used the method of spraying with woodedn baton screwed into the neck pocket early 1963, so you would not expect to see the bare wood for this period of guitar. Also, the shim material is consistent with what Fender was using back then. 10k is a lot and probably too much in the current economic climate but, and it is a big but, where else would you get an original item in this condition.

Edited October 11, 2009 by alanbass1

[alanbass1]

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='623116' date='Oct 11 2009, 02:27 PM']Yes, I think it's literally twice the price it should be. The Gallery had a nice '64 Jazz in last time I was there a few weeks ago & that was only £4500.[/quote]

Problem with that guitar was the respray. No matter what opinions people have on the value of originality, it is accepted that a respray will halve the value of a vintage instrument.

Edited October 11, 2009 by alanbass1

[wateroftyne]

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='623116' date='Oct 11 2009, 02:27 PM']Yes, I think it's literally ITice the price it should be. The Gallery had a nice '64 Jazz in last time I was there a few weeks ago & that was only £4500.[/quote]

'Twice the price' is a bit harsh. In the eyes of an anorak with burning pockets of money, there's light-years between a '64 and a '62 in a custom colour with a matching headstock.

[Dread Bass]

Yikes. DO want.

[beerdragon]

Alot of People have no hesitation paying that kind of money for a car which is worth less money five minutes after you have bought. i know a guy who i used to be in band with has a 66 SG and he looks on it as a bit of a pension.

[BassBus]

Silly money or not, it might also be seen as a marketing stunt for the shop. Look at the discussion it's created here in just a few hours. Now I know of another shop I've never heard of before. Can't pay for publicity like that.

[beerdragon]

[quote name='BassBus' post='623189' date='Oct 11 2009, 03:51 PM']Silly money or not, it might also be seen as a marketing stunt for the shop. Look at the discussion it's created here in just a few hours. Now I know of another shop I've never heard of before. Can't pay for publicity like that.[/quote]

Yeah but have you checked their other stuff? a lot of pricey gear.

[funkypenguin]

[quote name='MB1' post='623003' date='Oct 11 2009, 12:19 PM']MB1.
...."One Mans Vintage! Is Another Mans Firewood!".... [/quote]

definetely firewood in my case.....thats an obscene amount of money for a fender

[Lew-Bass]

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Even more expensive and 4 years older! Mind you it is in excellent condition, and American