jakenewmanbass Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Hi Guys, I'm going to do a transcription of the last piece I played for you on Sat and post it here in a PDF. In the meantime I found this clip of Jimmy Johnson with Vinnie Colaiuta doing a TV showband in the 80's. It's guys having fun with playing a theme tune but adding some of their own spice. In exactly the terms I was discussing on Sat Jimmy keeps a monstrous groove going but every now and then pops in a jaw dropping fill. Check it out. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDG0GwDyyD8"]Mind blowing fills[/url] Enjoy Jake PS. stick with until at least show 4 Edited October 16, 2009 by jakesbass Quote
xilddx Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 [quote name='jakesbass' post='623939' date='Oct 12 2009, 01:29 PM']Hi Guys, I'm going to do a transcription of the last piece I played for you on Sat and post it here in a PDF. In the meantime I found this clip of Jimmy Johnson with Vinnie Collaiuta doing a TV showband in the 80's. It's guys having fun with playing a theme tune but adding some of their own spice. In exactly the terms I was discussing on Sat Jimmy keeps a monstrous groove going but every now and then pops in a jaw dropping fill. Check it out. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDG0GwDyyD8"]Mind blowing fills[/url] Enjoy Jake PS. stick with until at least show 4[/quote] I'll have to check the YT later. Looking forward to the transcription, and seeing if I can get to 139bpm Thanks Jake, that was such a superb tutorial, and you're a totally natural coach. Cheers! Quote
jakenewmanbass Posted October 12, 2009 Author Posted October 12, 2009 [quote name='silddx' post='623943' date='Oct 12 2009, 01:33 PM']I'll have to check the YT later. Looking forward to the transcription, and seeing if I can get to 139bpm Thanks Jake, that was such a superb tutorial, and you're a totally natural coach. Cheers![/quote] Thanks mate... Quote
7string Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 Blimey, there's Bruce Gaitsch on guitar. Quote
Stingray5 Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Wow, I didn't realize Vinnie was doing drums for Joan Rivers Late Show back then. Jimmy Johnson is just seriously good. Period. One of my main reasons to watch Saturday Night Live was to catch the studio band and Will Lee on bass. (US talk shows always have great house bands. e.g., Kevin Eubanks' band on the current Late Show; drummer Max Weinberg's band on Letterman). Oops, apologies to Jake for going slightly off-topic there. Edited October 13, 2009 by Stingray5 Quote
OldGit Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 [quote name='jakesbass' post='623949' date='Oct 12 2009, 01:39 PM']Thanks mate...[/quote] Fancy a trip to Cardiff in November? Quote
lowdown Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 Thanks for posting the link Jake. I find the American TV show bands a great listening experience, Always great players involved, with some stonking arrangements. In the Uk apart from the Strictly Come Dancing band, What are we left with? 4 Poofs and a Piano - Nice! Garry Quote
51m0n Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 Damn and thats not showing off? Some really in your face playing there. Got to admit though I love the way it stays totally in the groove too. Respect! Quote
alexclaber Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 [quote name='lowdown' post='624747' date='Oct 13 2009, 10:04 AM']In the Uk apart from the Strictly Come Dancing band[/quote] Great band and a fantastic and very up-front-in-the-mix bassist! [quote name='lowdown' post='624747' date='Oct 13 2009, 10:04 AM']4 Poofs and a Piano - Nice![/quote] Are they ever in tune? I hadn't really heard Jimmy Johnson's playing before now, though I knew of him as a low B pioneer with his Alembic - he's great. Quite similar to Anthony Jackson in the way he'll find those big but sparse notes that work (though Jimmy seems to be yet more minimal) and then occasionally throw in a monster fill that fits perfectly. Great! Further to your workshop Jake I have just dug out my far too unthumbed copy of 'Building Walking Bass Lines' and will endeavour to get somewhere instead of doing my usual wandering off into writing a new song... Alex Quote
lowdown Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Sorry to go OT. Alex, the Bassist on Come Dancing is Trevor Barry... Nice little interview here, [url="http://www.bassguitarmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=139:trevor-barry-bgm-issue-29&catid=43:artist-interviews&Itemid=70"]http://www.bassguitarmagazine.com/index.ph...s&Itemid=70[/url] Garry Edited October 13, 2009 by lowdown Quote
alexclaber Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 [quote name='lowdown' post='624792' date='Oct 13 2009, 10:51 AM']Alex, the Bassist on Come Dancing is Trevor Barry...[/quote] Thanks, couldn't remember it off the top of my head. Very interesting to hear his different salsa grooves on Saturday. And he's a great example of how if you're really on it with your note choices, tone and timing that producers will want to turn you WAY up in the mix - what better incentive to improve?! Alex Quote
jakenewmanbass Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Ok fellas here it is: [attachment=34386:Bass_Bash_Groove.pdf] Here's the thing, I don't have music notation software so I've penned it, so forgive the scrawl. If one kind individual felt like popping it into sibelius I'd be most grateful. As I said on Saturday it can be played quite successfully at a variety of tempi the best being 104 for swing, for funk 120 works but it really comes into it's own at 138. The point is to learn it to the extent that you can mess with the form, and as it's a call and response natured thing you can exchange either the bass part or the melody part for notes of your own choice. I have started on a recording of it. I'll probably do 2 versions, one just 'as written' and one with some improvising. Watch this space. It's quite a challenging piece at top speed but over all it's meant to be a bit of blowing fun. Edited October 13, 2009 by jakesbass Quote
jakenewmanbass Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 BTW I find that as a piece it works best when wearing a floppy bow tie and moving your hips ala Austin Powers. Quote
51m0n Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Have you seen this Jake? [url="http://www.noteflight.com/login"]http://www.noteflight.com/login[/url] Its 'free' (like heroin, in that they give you something for nothing then ask for cash for the best gear ) and pretty fully featured (I've only looked at the free version, I can give it up if I have to, its just a cold, just say no etc etc). Just a thought, since as an educator it might be really helpful, esp as its online, and I think you can set up restricted public availaility blah blah blah.... Si PS Love the sig Edited October 13, 2009 by 51m0n Quote
jakenewmanbass Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 [quote name='OldGit' post='624708' date='Oct 13 2009, 09:07 AM']Fancy a trip to Cardiff in November? [/quote] Hmm, tempting as my family are there. I'll give it some thought... Quote
jakenewmanbass Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 [quote name='51m0n' post='624846' date='Oct 13 2009, 11:56 AM']Have you seen this Jake? [url="http://www.noteflight.com/login"]http://www.noteflight.com/login[/url] Its 'free' (like heroin, in that they give you something for nothing then ask for cash for the best gear ) and pretty fully featured (I've only looked at the free version, I can give it up if I have to, its just a cold, just say no etc etc). Just a thought, since as an educator it might be really helpful, esp as its online, and I think you can set up restricted public availaility blah blah blah.... Si PS Love the sig [/quote] Thanks for that Si I'll check it out... Churchill was a sharp witted man.... Quote
lowdown Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Here you go Jake... [Finale not Sibelius] I have left the beams over the rests, Easier for the novice readers who struggle with the grouping. Funny how we all hear things from another angle. To me, it sounds like it is in 4#'s [E] But then again you wrote it - so it's just me talking out of my ar#e! [attachment=34392:Bass_Bash_Groove.pdf] Garry Edited October 13, 2009 by lowdown Quote
jakenewmanbass Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 [quote name='lowdown' post='625127' date='Oct 13 2009, 03:52 PM']Here you go Jake... [Finale not Sibelius] I have left the beams over the rests, Easier for the novice readers who struggle with the grouping. Funny how we all hear things from another angle. To me, it sounds like it is in 4#'s [E] But then again you wrote it - so it's just me talking out of my ar#e! [attachment=34392:Bass_Bash_Groove.pdf] Garry[/quote] Brilliant cheers for that Garry, I must get some software, I was using sibelius on the pc but need to get something now I'm on the mac. I know what you mean about the key, I just sort of hear it as E7 and A7 with a blues centre for each chord, but 4 sharps would get rid of some of the silly accidentals. Anyway that finale looks nice.... Quote
jakenewmanbass Posted October 14, 2009 Author Posted October 14, 2009 Ok I've just done a little version of the piece, [attachment=34477:Output_1_2.mp3] I tried it at the dreaded 138 bpm and after a few takes got it down with only one tiny edit for the very last phrase so it's a bit warts and all and deviates ever so slightly from the written for the odd rhythm or note. It really is just a bit of fun so I'd welcome some comments. I've added a couple of harmony figures from the high register of the bass just to add a bit of colour but they're panned wide enough to not get in the way. Enjoy. Jake Quote
tarcher Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Thanks for that Jake,very much appreciated.Can't seem to copy and paste to my desk top.missus will probably sort that for me hopefully. Quote
jakenewmanbass Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 [quote name='tarcher' post='626582' date='Oct 15 2009, 12:10 AM']Thanks for that Jake,very much appreciated.Can't seem to copy and paste to my desk top.missus will probably sort that for me hopefully.[/quote] Hmm, it should just play when you click on it mate, calling all buffs!! Quote
EssentialTension Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 [quote name='jakesbass' post='627148' date='Oct 15 2009, 05:42 PM']Hmm, it should just play when you click on it mate, calling all buffs!![/quote] It worked for me - thanks Jake. Quote
alexclaber Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Works for me! Is it easier without a few dozen bassists staring at you? Much as I'd like join in the fun, following your workshop I've resolved to get on with this walking malarkey and am starting simple with jazz blues in various keys. I'm not quite as bad at it as I thought, which is nice, though I just tried the rhythm changes and they totally foxed me. Back to an easier sequence... Alex Quote
tarcher Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I click on it and it plays ,no problem.I would just like to move it into a music folder on my desktop where I put all the pieces that I'm working on. Golly that sounds grand, what I really mean is the stuf I'm trying to learn to play. Quote
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