Sibob Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 I agree that if you're playing in a lot of different tunings, as Erisu seems to be, then a 5 string is going to help you with all the chopping and changing. For me, it was a lot easier to have a nice 4 string bass (what I prefer playing) in the one tuning that we use. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 [quote name='mrcrow' post='672159' date='Dec 2 2009, 03:16 PM']how one gets into a truss rod after all the neck is built must be a real luthier job anyway[/quote] I think this is the part that determines if a neck is a write-off or not Because it's a bound neck, I'm not sure if steaming the fretboard off works in the same way, or even if it's still a valid technique....not being of any kind of Luthier stock. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcrow Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Sibob' post='672168' date='Dec 2 2009, 03:26 PM']I think this is the part that determines if a neck is a write-off or not Because it's a bound neck, I'm not sure if steaming the fretboard off works in the same way, or even if it's still a valid technique....not being of any kind of Luthier stock. Si[/quote] i have a shuker bass and jon told me its a two way rod..whatever that means...and looking at my bass...the freboard is maple on a maple neck verrrrrrrrrrrrryyy tight joint between the two..in fact it looks like a solid neck...but no skunk stripe its a pit a neck needs to be so bound up since a truss rod can be a problem virtually from day 1... i used to think the rod was just screwed into a nut at the other end from the end you adjust it...a simple bolt..or so to speak but i found to my chagrin after b***ering up a rick that the rods are flat and cant be rotated...at least not on the rick i found my freboard beginning to part company with the neck wood....and didnt know how to cure it eventually i did get the rod..s..to rotate back to where they should have been and sold it on to someone more able to do a full correction...at a vast loss in ££ Edited December 2, 2009 by mrcrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_C Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) [quote name='mrcrow' post='672175' date='Dec 2 2009, 03:32 PM']i have a shuker bass and jon told me its a two way rod..whatever that means...and looking at my bass...the freboard is maple on a maple neck verrrrrrrrrrrrryyy tight joint between the two..in fact it looks like a solid neck...but no skunk stripe its a pit a neck needs to be so bound up since a truss rod can be a problem virtually from day 1... i used to think the rod was just screwed into a nut at the other end from the end you adjust it...a simple bolt..or so to speak but i found to my chagrin after b***ering up a rick that the rods are flat and cant be rotated...at least not on the rick i found my freboard beginning to part company with the neck wood....and didnt know how to cure it eventually i did get the rod..s..to rotate back to where they should have been and sold it on to someone more able to do a full correction...at a vast loss in ££[/quote] a two way rod means you can adjust the neck in both directions, and it doesn't rely on compression of the wood to do so as in the case of a single rod in, for example, a Fender neck - Rickenbacker's rod is somewhere between the two and, like a two way rod, there is perhaps more risk of popping the fingerboard off a two way rod sits in a flat channel routed in the neck, while a Fender style rod sits in a curved channel which needs a skunk stripe to give access to fit it. one of the unusual things about Rickenbacker rods is that they can be pulled out of the neck and replaced, without needing any surgery to do so Edited December 2, 2009 by Paul_C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcrow Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 [quote name='Paul_C' post='672210' date='Dec 2 2009, 04:12 PM'][b]one of the unusual things about Rickenbacker rods is that they can be pulled out of the neck and replaced, without needing any surgery to do so[/b][/quote] dohhh i really made a mess of mine...i rotated them or at least one of them...the anchor plate at the headstock was beginning to sink into the wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well the fingerboard definitly hadn't popped off, and the neck had bow so I was doing the correct clockwise adjustment. I assume that if a neck/fingerboard joint is attached in a proper way, the truss will give up the ghost before the fingerboard comes off!? It is also worth noting that although I perhaps went too far, I kept turning (in small increments), because to me there was still a visible bow to the neck after each 'turn-&-settle'. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 So Jon received the neck earlier today, emailed me just now and said that he's got the old rod out, and after some fiddling (with the other rod I presume), should be able to get a new one into the neck! Fingers crossed Very glad to have potentially saved the wood, although not out of the woods yet Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcrow Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 [quote name='Sibob' post='673155' date='Dec 3 2009, 01:30 PM']So Jon received the neck earlier today, emailed me just now and said that he's got the old rod out, and after some fiddling (with the other rod I presume), should be able to get a new one into the neck! Fingers crossed Very glad to have potentially saved the wood, although not out of the woods yet Si[/quote] santa lives in hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 You do realise that your mishap has put the Shuker builds back 3 months ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 [quote name='EBS_freak' post='673284' date='Dec 3 2009, 03:27 PM']You do realise that your mishap has put the Shuker builds back 3 months ?? [/quote] :ph34r: Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 14, 2010 Author Share Posted January 14, 2010 So Jon has seemingly fixed the neck!! He's posting it on Monday, so by Wednesday I'll have it back on the bass hehe.....but very gently. Slowly slowly catchy monkey and all that Horrah Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Wazoo Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 any before and after pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 14, 2010 Author Share Posted January 14, 2010 [quote name='bass5' post='712837' date='Jan 14 2010, 06:14 PM']any before and after pictures?[/quote] There won't be any aesthetic differences as the issues were obviously all internal. When it's back and re-assembled...I'll post a pic of the bass again lol Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry norton Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 [quote name='Sibob' post='713161' date='Jan 14 2010, 11:34 PM']There won't be any aesthetic differences as the issues were obviously all internal. When it's back and re-assembled...I'll post a pic of the bass again lol Si[/quote] Good news. Did he explain what had happened? It sounds like you're always very careful with truss rods which makes me wonder if there was a quality issue with the rod itself. There's quite allot to a double action rod and a fair bit of welding and lining up to get it all together and working properly (compared to a Gibson type anyway), but the way they work isn't rocket science and it normally takes real abuse to break a decent one. Keep us posted if you find out any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Yeah will do mate! When Jon emails back saying he's posted it Monday, I'll ask if he has anymore specifics! Cheers Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 [quote name='EBS_freak' post='673284' date='Dec 3 2009, 03:27 PM']You do realise that your mishap has put the Shuker builds back 3 months ?? [/quote] I think I'll be asking for delivery to the after-life at this rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 Ok people, my Shuker neck is back with me......so that means allllll your builds are back on track! Got the neck back on the body, slowly took the strings to (standard) pitch, not too accurately, but within half a semi-tone. The neck looked beautifully straight, and so I'll leave to settle over a few hours before I tinker (gently) anymore! progress will be posted Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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