Jigster Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 This was a thread on the EB Forum but can't find it again now - but I was browsing some time ago and read how some players were saying the G on their Ray's didn't seem to 'ring', there was talk of pick up height at the G, string tensions, string choice, set ups, etc..But I wanted to raise this here, as I'm feeling the same way, the G just doesn't resonate in the same way as the others strings - even acoustically (I think) has anyone had similar issues..? Mine's a 2008 single pick up 4 string - excellent cond so shouldn't be any playing issues as such.. Ta Quote
stingrayfan Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Think it's a design fault. I had it on mine too. Never really noticed it until I got my G&L and started to hear what I was playing on the top string. Wouldn't worry about it too much, the punters never notice! Quote
Beedster Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 [quote name='Jigster' post='671242' date='Dec 1 2009, 04:20 PM']... has anyone had similar issues..?[/quote] Only people who've owned a Stingray . But pretty much all of them! Quote
budget bassist Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) just played mine acoustically... i can't hear any problem... I've never noticed any problem amplified either Edited December 1, 2009 by budget bassist Quote
deathpanda Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Strange, my friend has a Ray, the G on the 10th fret of the a string rings out too much and overpowers everything... Quote
witterth Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 ...and with one I had it was the E that went dull really quickly compared to other strings Quote
MB1 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 MB1. Bizarre? ....Mine upsets Whippits at 30 paces??? Quote
Cairobill Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Now I remember why I sold my Ray! It's all come flooding back... Quote
witterth Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 [quote name='MB1' post='671312' date='Dec 1 2009, 05:13 PM']MB1. Bizarre? ....Mine upsets Whippits at 30 paces???[/quote] Nah...that'll be coz youre holding it MrB1!( ) Quote
Jigster Posted December 1, 2009 Author Posted December 1, 2009 guys this is deprressing! Love my Ray but not sure it's the answer to my dweams or that I can accept that there is this G fault I have to live with! - the sweet trebs are what I love most about bass playing!! Gonna take off the Labellas currently on there later tonight and put some EB's on and see what that does Quote
simon1964 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 [quote name='Jigster' post='671318' date='Dec 1 2009, 05:20 PM']guys this is deprressing! Love my Ray but not sure it's the answer to my dweams or that I can accept that there is this G fault I have to live with! - the sweet trebs are what I love most about bass playing!! Gonna take off the Labellas currently on there later tonight and put some EB's on and see what that does[/quote] It is a problem on Stingrays. I've found that a decent compressor and my EBS microbass evens things out - but you really shouldn't have the problem in the first place! Quote
Beedster Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I used a '89 'ray to record two weeks ago and, although it didn't sound too bad at the time, on the track the notes on the G literally disappear. I'd noticed it to an extent during my Stingray phase but never realised just how pronounced it can be. I guess it varies from instrument to instrument but it is a recognised issue with 'rays C Quote
MB1 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 [quote name='witterth' post='671314' date='Dec 1 2009, 05:17 PM']Nah...that'll be coz youre holding it MrB1!( )[/quote] MB1. ...Could be worse!...could be sat under some Train spotters bed not being used at all! Quote
stingrayfan Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 [quote name='Jigster' post='671318' date='Dec 1 2009, 05:20 PM']guys this is deprressing! Love my Ray but not sure it's the answer to my dweams or that I can accept that there is this G fault I have to live with! - the sweet trebs are what I love most about bass playing!! Gonna take off the Labellas currently on there later tonight and put some EB's on and see what that does[/quote] Try a G&L. It's the one he designed [i]after[/i] the Ray. Quote
Huge Hands Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 This might be a long shot but..... I had a set of Labella flats where the low B just wouldn't ring, and almost sounded muted when played, although it felt ok when plucking. I was convinced the new bass/pickups I had just bought and put them on was cr*p, until about 2 weeks later when the string core snapped. The string itself still looked intact! I got another string, and it was perfect! From what I hear on here, you are quite likely to get the odd dodgy flatwound in every few packs from Labella. That's the only one I've had and it hasn't put me off them. I'm sure you're about to tell me you've already replaced it several times, but I thought it worth a mention as another possibilty.... Quote
witterth Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 [quote name='MB1' post='671342' date='Dec 1 2009, 05:38 PM']MB1. ...Could be worse!...could be sat under some Train spotters bed not being used at all! [/quote] Tut Tut... I'm just "resting", and prehaps in another 12 months I wont fell tired any more!!! any way? whos the "train spotter"?oh you mean... just.. because.... I appreiciate things doesnt... mean...I..crying?....whatdo you mean? Ive got something in my eye....................Im going to TELL!! Quote
Cairobill Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 There's heaps of discussion about this phenomenon and possible ways to cure it on Talkbass, like here for starters [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180527&highlight=weak+string+stingray"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.p...string+stingray[/url] The upshot is that it is part of the way the bass is constructed, it seems... Quote
MB1 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 [quote name='witterth' post='671352' date='Dec 1 2009, 05:49 PM']Tut Tut... I'm just "resting", and prehaps in another 12 months I wont fell tired any more!!! any way? whos the "train spotter"?oh you mean... just.. because.... I appreiciate things doesnt... mean...I..crying?....whatdo you mean? Ive got something in my eye....................Im going to TELL!![/quote] MB1. ...Was refering to the train spotter that bought your old Stingray (which still probably resides under his bed! ) that he doesnt play.... and wont sell you back!.... Quote
RayFW Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 The EB 'rays I've had all had the same problem. I did have a clone with a body made by Howard "the Bass Doc" which had a perfectly good G string so it must be something inherent in the way EB make 'em. I just moved the pickup closer to the G on the problem ones. Strangely enough, the modelled Stingray on a Roland VBass also exhibits the same problem. Quote
bassmanady Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I have owned two 5 string Stingrays,and the only thing i found on one was the G string to being set very close to the edge of the neck,and if not careful my finger would slide the string of the edge of the fret..to me thats bad design/ quality control..i did buy it without trying,so now i would always try one first. I did not notice the G string being weaker,but then i did not keep it for long! Quote
Jigster Posted December 1, 2009 Author Posted December 1, 2009 have put a set of EB flats on and the G is def brighter but also moe balanced in relation to the D as they play off each other..hmm. The EBs are a brighter string than the La Bellas without doubt but the articulation just seems so much better.. Quote
chris_b Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 You could try a Fatfinger. They can iron out dead spots in the neck so one might help a dead G string. Quote
witterth Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) [quote name='MB1' post='671358' date='Dec 1 2009, 05:56 PM']MB1. ...Was refering to the train spotter that bought your old Stingray (which still probably resides under his bed! ) that he doesnt play.... and wont sell you back!.... [/quote] Oh yeah! ...well.... I was only joking anyway!!! .....god hes a bast@rd insnt he?..... Hes still got the aptly named "thieves bass" YKWIM? pre EB one as well, as well thats the one I was talking about earlier btw Edited December 1, 2009 by witterth Quote
Musicman20 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I have two....never had this problem....but then again I did have them set up after they had been sent from EB. Just raise the pickup or lower the G string.... Hope you get it sorted! Quote
Rayman Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I've had the same problem with both the rays I've had. It drove me mad when playing a couple of songs with the band where I used the G string a lot, it'd just disappear in the mix. Angling the pickup up to the G string a little helped me, but never really solved the problem. Here I am wanting another one.... Quote
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