PIL

[sshorepunk]

Saw PIL in Manchester last night. f'in amazing!

Scott firth on bass [url="http://www.myspace.com/scottfirth"]http://www.myspace.com/scottfirth[/url]

T

[ahpook]

i've been listening to PIL for the first time over the last couple of weeks...very much enjoying it.

glad the gig was fun

[BigRedX]

Do you mean PiL?

Sorry but without Wobble or Levene, it's just a Lydon solo tour IMO.

[thisnameistaken]

I decided I wasn't going to see them if they didn't have Jah Wobble, but my mate saw them in Sheffield and said it was the best gig he's ever seen. Now I feel like I'm missing out.

[sshorepunk]

[quote name='BigRedX' post='689560' date='Dec 20 2009, 10:18 AM']Do you mean PiL?

Sorry but without Wobble or Levene, it's just a Lydon solo tour IMO.[/quote]

Yes, I mean PiL

It might be, but still a great show, good sound, good songs played by good musicians. I had a great night out last night
if you're a fan, getting all anal about who's playing and then not going is a bit sad IMHO, a bit like not going cos he sells butter :-)

He even thanked country life

T

[BigRedX]

I suppose it's all down to what you want from Mr Lydon...

For me the classic PiL is their OGWT performance of Poptones and Careering. Also TBH I'm not sure that I would want to see them 30 years on - a good 28 years past their sell-by date rehashing past glories. That simply doesn't appeal to me.

I'd rather see Mr Lydon do something brand new. He's got the creativity, and his reputation would still draw in the audience. Obviously his US property investments weren't as sound as he hoped...

[sshorepunk]

probably not as sound as his country life contract!

[Johngh]

The guy can do no wrong. Lydon is one of life's true characters. See Avvie. He's probably kill me if he knew I'd stuck a red nose on him !

[BigRedX]

He might not be able to do no wrong... but AFAICS he's not done anything new since 1997.

What a lazy rotter...

[Cat Burrito]

I liked them in the 80s. I like Lydon a lot and think he is one of the great British characters still left in music. I must be out of touch though I didn't know they (he!) was even touring.

[Paul_C]

[quote name='BigRedX' post='689747' date='Dec 20 2009, 02:01 PM']I suppose it's all down to what you want from Mr Lydon...

For me the classic PiL is their OGWT performance of Poptones and Careering. Also TBH I'm not sure that I would want to see them 30 years on - a good 28 years past their sell-by date rehashing past glories. That simply doesn't appeal to me.

I'd rather see Mr Lydon do something brand new. He's got the creativity, and his reputation would still draw in the audience. Obviously his US property investments weren't as sound as he hoped...[/quote]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnBq98uUJE4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnBq98uUJE4[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rtwiMFDWa0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rtwiMFDWa0[/url]

[rjb]

The "Rise" era stuff with Bill Laswell is also great.

[Pete Academy]

I hate John Lydon and the Sex Pistols. PiL were musically good, but he grates on me.

[benebass]

Heard Jah Wobble being interviewed on the radio a while ago & they asked him why he wasn't involved in the PiL tour - he said there was no animosity, but he'd turned it down & would only be up for doing it if they were going to write some new stuff. Was quite impressed by that - must have turned down a massive wedge of cash to stick to his principles.

Still wouldn't have minded seeing this PiL tour though - shame they never made it to Newcastle...

B.

[chris_b]

[quote name='sshorepunk' post='689691' date='Dec 20 2009, 12:45 PM']....if you're a fan, getting all anal about who's playing and then not going is a bit sad IMHO, a bit like not going cos he sells butter....[/quote]
Don't knock the butter ads; apparently they paid for the tour!

[thisnameistaken]

[quote name='sshorepunk' post='689691' date='Dec 20 2009, 12:45 PM']if you're a fan, getting all anal about who's playing and then not going is a bit sad IMHO,[/quote]

Surely you go see a band to see who's playing, don't you? So who's playing becomes something of a key criterion, really.

PIL were lauded for their creativity, and that's what impressed me about them. I wouldn't want to go just to see their old tunes trotted out by whatever band could be assembled. I think it says a lot that Jah Wobble only wanted to get back together with them to create more music, not recreate the old music.

They're the last band that should be a museum piece.

[sshorepunk]

Good discussion this, I agree, would have been great to see Wobble and Levine with the band, but regardless of the line up, it was a good gig and a great sound. The guitarist was excellent, as was the drummer. Scott firth did a great job of holding down the bottom end in the absence of Mr Wobble. He played 4 and 5 string, not sure what, I couldn't see, he played through an Aguillar rig and played EUB on a few tracks and it sounded really good

Tony

[Bass_In_Yer_Face]

i was lucky enough to see PIL in '92 when they not only had the legendy John McGeoch on guitar but MiKe Joyce from The Smiths on drums.

Except for the track 'Public Image' I didn't really like the early PIL stuff but once I heard 'Album', I bought everything after that

Edited December 21, 2009 by Bass_In_Yer_Face

[faceman]

What sort of setlist did they play?

I recently got into PIL (not being a fan of the Sex Pistols) and enjoy the off-the-wall nature of things like Death Disco, Albatross and Public Image.

Some new stuff with Wobble would be rather great!

[CliveT]

There was an interesting Culture Show special on John L last night on BBC4. Very interesting.

Steve Firth sounded good on bass playing a fretless and EUB on the show when they showed a couple of rehearsal clips. Anyone know what gear he uses ?

[Jerry_B]

There's a very good version of Poptones from a John Peel session on [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CArm9JM_qqA"]YouTube[/url].

[MacDaddy]

The stuff with Steve Vai is interesting on Album, (or) Compact Disc, (or) Cassette.