andy67 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 For me, Under-rated: Cliff William (AC/DC) brackets say it all really! Flawless delivery evertime! Locks in well with Phill Rudd enabling the front men to do their thing! Very simple music and bass lines but...it's music and Cliff is the traditional rock bassist! Over-rated: Well, Wooten would have been mine too so other than him...Manring why? although he pushes the boundaries further than most, I lose interest within seconds! He is more mechanical/technical to me than a flowing natural player. andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='SteveK' post='703850' date='Jan 7 2010, 09:45 AM']I wouldn't argue that I'm reminded of a record that I played on in 1981, which, incidentally, made number 6 (IIRC) in t'charts. There's a line in the chorus, octaves played from root, Maj 3rd, 5th. One time I accidentally played a b5. Went back in to the control room to apologize for my goof, and [i]could I do it again[/i]. Producer said it was perfect (?) and I should do it again, and [i]this time[/i] play the b5 every time... Who was I to argue with Tony Visconti.[/quote] Ha Visconti is known for that, Trevor Boulder's (very under rated player) early move to the chorus in Jean Genie where you can hear Bowie say "get back on E" is another example. That b5 on Decadent Days is pretty nasty though Steve, but who is one to argue with Tony Visconti? [quote name='gnasher1993' post='703374' date='Jan 6 2010, 08:04 PM']- Paul McCartney (sorry excuse for a bass player, sorry)[/quote] Yes, a million times yes and don't be sorry. Me and a bass playing buddy are both of the opinion that he played what George Martin told him too, which is why his post Beatles line are totally different (see lame). Of course opinions vary with regard to Macca, especially in the US where he is revered and any mention of a bad word against him gets you branded as a troll. So.... Under rated Trevor Boulder Over rated Sir Paul Smug Bugger. To the OP John Taylor....................................................(wait for it)...................................................is a mighty fine player, end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbird13 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) [quote name='andy67' post='703951' date='Jan 7 2010, 11:22 AM']For me, Under-rated: Cliff William (AC/DC) brackets say it all really! Flawless delivery evertime! Locks in well with Phill Rudd enabling the front men to do their thing! Very simple music and bass lines but...it's music and Cliff is the traditional rock bassist![/quote] Completely agree that Cliff is very very underrated but the basslines are only simple harmonically the way they fit the song and support everything else is a fine example of bass playing. I have never seen a covers band do a really convincing ACDC cover its one thing getting the notes right but quite another thing getting the feel [quote name='ezbass' post='703978' date='Jan 7 2010, 11:52 AM']Ha Visconti is known for that, Trevor Boulder's (very under rated player) early move to the chorus in Jean Genie where you can hear Bowie say "get back on E" is another example. That b5 on Decadent Days is pretty nasty though Steve, but who is one to argue with Tony Visconti? [b] Did Visconti play bass on The man who sold the World - some fantastic bass playing on that [/b] Yes, a million times yes and don't be sorry. Me and a bass playing buddy are both of the opinion that he played what George Martin told him too, which is why his post Beatles line are totally different (see lame). Of course opinions vary with regard to Macca, especially in the US where he is revered and any mention of a bad word against him gets you branded as a troll.[/quote] before I came tio this forum I always thought Paul Mccartney was considered one of the best pop bass players I'm actually quite suprised that people slag him off as I love his stuff with the Beatles .The bassline to baby your a rich man was one of the first lines which I heard that didnt just go thump thump thump Edited January 7, 2010 by thunderbird13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul h Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Underrated: Gene Simmons. Overrated: Ooh, I dunno. Pick someone famous at random. That will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Underrated - Hieronymus Squidge of Goof and the Bassett Fairy Cakes. His innovative use of hammer and electric drill is truly wonderful. Overrated - his successor in the band, Antsnam Pantsnam, who modelled all of his basslines on the first movement of John Cage's Four Thirty-three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='Rayman' post='703894' date='Jan 7 2010, 10:28 AM']Overrated: The Wombles. They're useless, I've been to Wimbledon, and it's covered in empty beer cans and crisp packets.[/quote] Thats overground...... The Wombles also did underground. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='SteveK' post='703883' date='Jan 7 2010, 10:19 AM']Okay, no sniggering though [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr3Usn3mFgI"]Embarrassing clip[/url][/quote] OK, definitely no sniggering here but I have to say nice dancing. Mind you, that note, reminded me of my own fretless playing. Spicy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='William James Easton' post='703786' date='Jan 7 2010, 07:01 AM']Brian Wilson was very underrated.[/quote] 'Many of the bass parts on Beach Boys recordings were played by Carol Kaye.' Discuss. However, even if she did play them I would guess that Wilson's input was important. So +1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='Alfie' post='703750' date='Jan 7 2010, 12:58 AM']Underrated- Guigsy... honestly. Overrated- Tom Kennedy, the only gig I have ever fallen asleep during. Although in Kennedy's defence it was mostly the 15 minute Dave Weckl drum solos that did for me.[/quote] I'm sorry,but I'm not letting this one slip by without comment. As much as I love Jaco and Victor,I'm used to hearing them being slagged off-but Tom Kennedy??????? The guy is just an absolute monster player on both electric and upright. And as for Weckl- he's all kinds of awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Underated? Dunno, but rarely mentioned-----Dee Murray, wonderful player and brill B/Vs to boot! Overated? That's tough.....[b]anyone[/b] who thinks they're irreplaceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray5 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 What, no Sting? I'd have thought at least the Macca nay-sayers would have had him hung drawn and quartered long before now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='Alfie' post='703750' date='Jan 7 2010, 12:58 AM']Overrated- Tom Kennedy, the only gig I have ever fallen asleep during. Although in Kennedy's defence it was mostly the 15 minute Dave Weckl drum solos that did for me.[/quote] Not sure TK is overated, And to be honest never seems to get a mention on Basschat. A fine Musician indeed. So out of curiosity who did make you fall asleep , DW or TK? Or the whole gig in general? Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I want to remain aloof from the thread, declare it immature and generally distance myself from it, at the same time as slag off Victor Wooten. Do I need my own arm chair? Or a throne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardybass Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Underrated: Juan Nelson, because he's awesome! Overrated: Steve Harris, because he's in THAT band, who are not awesome, not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardybass Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='Stingray5' post='704198' date='Jan 7 2010, 02:15 PM']What, no Sting? I'd have thought at least the Macca nay-sayers would have had him hung drawn and quartered long before now... [/quote] Andrew (the arrtist formerly known as metaltime) has some interesting views on Sting, give him a shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfie Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='lowdown' post='704201' date='Jan 7 2010, 02:17 PM']Not sure TK is overated, And to be honest never seems to get a mention on Basschat. A fine Musician indeed. So out of curiosity who did make you fall asleep , DW or TK? Or the whole gig in general? Garry[/quote] It was probably the combination of a little bit of wine, the 2am second set and a large dollop of bang, bang, bosh, crash, cowbell. But I still don't like TK, too many notes. Just find a couple you like and play them well... like Guigsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperbob 2002 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='ezbass' post='703978' date='Jan 7 2010, 11:52 AM']Ha Visconti is known for that, Trevor Boulder's (very under rated player) early move to the chorus in Jean Genie where you can hear Bowie say "get back on E" is another example. That b5 on Decadent Days is pretty nasty though Steve, but who is one to argue with Tony Visconti? Yes, a million times yes and don't be sorry. Me and a bass playing buddy are both of the opinion that he played what George Martin told him too, which is why his post Beatles line are totally different (see lame). Of course opinions vary with regard to Macca, especially in the US where he is revered and any mention of a bad word against him gets you branded as a troll. [b]What abou tthe bass line on Silly Love Songs- I wonder how many on this forum could come up with that? Crap Song though [/b] So.... Under rated Trevor Boulder Over rated Sir Paul Smug Bugger. To the OP John Taylor....................................................(wait for it)...................................................is a mighty fine player, end of.[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote]Ha Visconti is known for that,[/quote] Indeed! I also recorded an album with him in '81 (same singer) He was an absolute joy to work with. Always positive, and always trying for something different...A legend! [quote]Under rated Trevor Boulder[/quote] Funnily enough, did a handful of gigs with him (Uriah Heep) just before Christmas. He may be "underrated", but he sure as hell isn't under powered [quote]Did Visconti play bass on The man who sold the World - some fantastic bass playing on that[/quote] Quite possibly, he was a bass player before turning to knob twiddler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='thunderbird13' post='704019' date='Jan 7 2010, 12:24 PM']Did Visconti play bass on The man who sold the World - some fantastic bass playing on that[/quote] Yes, according to Visconti's book [i]Bowie, Bolan and the Brooklyn Boy[/i]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='Alfie' post='704326' date='Jan 7 2010, 03:37 PM']But I still don't like TK, too many notes. Just find a couple you like and play them well... like Guigsy.[/quote] Thats all very well. But would not work in 'All The Things You Are'... Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddy Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Underated,, who was the guy out the Boomtown Rats,,,,, great sound and great bass lines... Overated,,Nah,,,,Its not a competition,, respect to all....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='urb' post='703557' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:07 PM']No that's it - I've lost the will to live[/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Funnily enough and right back at the start of the thread I concurr sir, I love John Taylor basslines, and Victor just don't float it for me. anyway, Trevor Horn.......underrated overrated, John Deacon..... Edited January 7, 2010 by iconic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 + me. In every original material band I´ve played bass in, I have created or adapted bass lines which have ususally raised the music a couple of notches, as they were created to suit the song. - me. Playing ridiculously fast for no apparent reason through lots of distortion with piched harmonics makes me far happier than it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Justin Chancellor is a legend. Evidence [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhjG47gtMCo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhjG47gtMCo[/url] Edited January 7, 2010 by Sarah5string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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