Hmmmm! am I just suspicious by nature?

[loudandclear]

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290389130663&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...ME:B:SS:GB:1123[/url]

[lemmywinks]

Think this has been listed and flagged up on here before... I'll have a dig about

[Ou7shined]

Yuck!
Wouldn't mind the neck though.

[BottomEndian]

Looks like a late-70s SR headstock, but that's not a MM bridge. And I'm pretty sure the neck plate should have a logo and serial number if it's late-70s as the headstock suggests.

But I'm no expert, unlike [url="http://www.musicmanbass.org/mycustompage0008.htm"]this site[/url].

[Beedster]

Some of the bits might be original MM, but the bass as a whole isn't for sure. Looks like a classic Trigger's Broom job, started out original, then a new body, new bridge, new control plate etc etc

C

Edited January 8, 2010 by Beedster

[BottomEndian]

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='705673' date='Jan 8 2010, 04:21 PM']Wouldn't mind the neck though.[/quote]
+1

[obbm]

This has been listed before. It's a bitza. Bits from here and bits from there.

Genuine pre-EB neck. Body is copy. Pick-up in wrong place. Wrong bridge. Control plate looks home-made.

Last time it was up it was reported.

[warwickhunt]

As wrong as a wrong thing!

Prior to looking at the listing I read what Dave said about the pup being misplaced and I expected that his expert eye had picked up that it might have been a few mill out of place... jeepers it's that far back you may as well call it a piezo. Oh and what's going on with that neck plate?

[Kiwi]

still, its not like anyone is going to be ripped off. The reserve was very reasonable given the value of the parts.

[BottomEndian]

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='705730' date='Jan 8 2010, 04:56 PM']Oh and what's going on with that neck plate?[/quote]
Interesting, innit? [i]Almost[/i] the right shape for the era, and it's still got the micro-tilt adjustment hole. Looks like it's made from an old Coke can though.

[obbm]

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='705908' date='Jan 8 2010, 07:26 PM']still, its not like anyone is going to be ripped off. The reserve was very reasonable given the value of the parts.[/quote]

I must disagree. It's a gross misrepresentation. It is NOT a Stingray and someone who doesn't know could well be ripped off thnking they are getting the real deal. Not all potential buyers are as knowledgeable as the BC membership.

Anyway where's the battery?

The only real parts are probably the neck and the pick-up and they do not add up to a real Ray.

[warwickhunt]

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='705908' date='Jan 8 2010, 07:26 PM']still, its not like anyone is going to be ripped off. The reserve was very reasonable given the value of the parts.[/quote]

I have to disagree. Where in his listing does he state that a part or parts (or everything except the neck) of the bass are not genuine Musicman parts? It could be argued that he doesn't know that most of the bass is cobbled together so to give him the benefit of the doubt (even though it has been pulled by eBay previously) I'm going to point out one or two of the inaccuracies and see if he responds positively; if he doesn't then he is trying to rip people off!

[warwickhunt]

"cheers for that but like i said in m write up i know nothing about guitars and if you have noticed about it then im sure others have too.
kind regards eith"

So he's not going out of his way to clear matters up!

[fede162162]

He's wily, saying that " I don't know anything about guitars" he frees himself from any responsability. However, at the same time he suggests(that's the artful part) it's a Music Man, in order to fish some naive unexpert bassist.

[Cat Burrito]

[quote name='fede162162' post='707845' date='Jan 10 2010, 04:44 PM']He's wily, saying that " I don't know anything about guitars" he frees himself from any responsability.[/quote]

Classic con, up there with selling for a mate

[molan]

I was interested in just the neck (which looks pre EB to me) so I've asked for details from reverse of headstock.

Apparently the bass is in a lock-up that's inaccessible due to snow.

If I hear more I'll post details. . .

[lemmywinks]

I messaged him about it and he's ammended the listing, still not changed the title though

He seems to think people are saying it's not genuine so they can get it cheap, maybe he doesn't actually know it's not all correct?

[molan]

He does sound genuine but you can never tell.

Interesting spelling. . .

[warwickhunt]

I wouldn't buy it based upon the fact that his spelling is getting worse by the minute...

Oh and before you shoot me down, he doesn't suffer from Dyslexia, he's either plain lazy or wishing to appear dumber than he actually is, which matches in with his tack of; "I don't know what I have"! However you can 'deside'.

<edit>

How ironic... edited for a typo!

Edited January 10, 2010 by warwickhunt

[warwickhunt]

[quote name='molan' post='708320' date='Jan 10 2010, 10:51 PM']He does sound genuine but you can never tell.

Interesting spelling. . .[/quote]

SNAP!

<edit>

and interesting retracted bids!

Edited January 10, 2010 by warwickhunt

[Shockwave]

If you thought that one was bad.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280449423776&_trksid=p2759.l1259"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...sid=p2759.l1259[/url]

heres another, already reported and emailed the seller. The string tree is in the wrong position, used an old style logo on some"THING" modern, The pickup is wrong, bridge is wrong, neckplate and serial wrong. Trys to negate responsibility by saying he is unsure about the mods done by previous owner. Which i am sure is against ebay policy now.

[Ou7shined]

[quote name='Shockwave' post='708365' date='Jan 10 2010, 11:27 PM']If you thought that one was bad.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280449423776&_trksid=p2759.l1259"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...sid=p2759.l1259[/url]

heres another, already reported and emailed the seller. The string tree is in the wrong position, used an old style logo on some"THING" modern, The pickup is wrong, bridge is wrong, neckplate and serial wrong. Trys to negate responsibility by saying he is unsure about the mods done by previous owner. Which i am sure is against ebay policy now.[/quote]
Yup I think we've seen it before too quite a while back. Different pics this time - I remember it standing up the way.

[lemmywinks]

[quote name='Shockwave' post='708365' date='Jan 10 2010, 11:27 PM']If you thought that one was bad.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280449423776&_trksid=p2759.l1259"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...sid=p2759.l1259[/url]

heres another, already reported and emailed the seller. The string tree is in the wrong position, used an old style logo on some"THING" modern, The pickup is wrong, bridge is wrong, neckplate and serial wrong. Trys to negate responsibility by saying he is unsure about the mods done by previous owner. Which i am sure is against ebay policy now.[/quote]


I wonder if there's a battery compartment on the rear, as it allegedly used to be an active 'Ray. My money's on a resounding "no"

[warwickhunt]

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='708422' date='Jan 11 2010, 12:59 AM']Yup I think we've seen it before too quite a while back. Different pics this time - I remember it standing up the way.[/quote]

I agree, I recall seeing this one. However, this is a newly registered user so I wonder if it is a scammer copying an earlier listing (idiot could have at least copied a proper MM) or if it is the same guy using a different account as he doesn't want to sully an account that he has, that has decent feedback (you can legitimately have 2 accounts)!

[obbm]

I've just checked my messages and I still have a copy of the question I asked and the answer.


MUSIC MAN STINGRAY BASS
Item Id: 290355478695
End time: 08-Oct-09 21:36:52 BST
Seller: keithy30 (373)
100.0% Positive Feedback
Member since 23-Feb-03 in United Kingdom
Location: East Sussex, United Kingdom


Question:

Dear keithy30,

Is this bass active or passive?

If active, where is the battery?

cheers



Dear *****

hi i know nothing about guitars sorry i cant help you i dont think it has a batt.

- keithy30

Edited January 11, 2010 by obbm