Vintage MIJ (formerly J@pCr@p) Spotting

[Ou7shined]

[quote name='Johnston' post='964831' date='Sep 22 2010, 07:48 PM']That has to be a shilled auction!![/quote]
Definitely.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='Johnston' post='964831' date='Sep 22 2010, 07:48 PM']That has to be a shilled auction!![/quote]
He's claiming it's graphite composite - that might encourage a few people. Never seen one of these before either but I seriously, [i]seriously[/i] doubt it.

J.

[Mr. Foxen]

I'd buy that just to part it out.

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='spinynorman' post='955997' date='Sep 14 2010, 01:43 PM']Japcrap on a silver dish

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Greco-SG-Bass-1985-Fujigen-Japan-Rare-Vintage-Bass-/180560737424?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0a423490"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Greco-SG-Bass-1985-F...=item2a0a423490[/url][/quote]

I don't visit the JapCrap section as often as I used to, so I missed this (though it's still an active auction as I write).

I was particularly taken with the eBay description sub-heading:

UK Guitar - No EU Taxes - Great Bass - Mint Collection

Phew! And there was me worrying about paying import duties from ... erm ... the EU.

Rather liked the idea of a Mint Collection, too. Something like this maybe?

[attachment=59528:mint_collection.jpg]

Hmmm - feeling peckish now.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='965900' date='Sep 23 2010, 06:09 PM']I'd buy that just to part it out.[/quote]

Agree. Bonus if it plays well.

Can't be more specific about age than 80s, probably. But Cort built some very nice stuff in the 80s.

J.

[Annoying Twit]

Is it just me, or is there something fundamentally odd about this Maya.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-MAYA-P-BASS-70s-BADASS-BRIDGE-SCHALLERS-MIJ-/330476397258?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4cf1eda2ca"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-MAYA-P-BASS-...=item4cf1eda2ca[/url]

The bridge seems a bit close to the end of the body. And the shape seems slightly off. Might be the angle of the photo, I dunno.

Edit: After going through the photos, I think it's just the badass bridge being a bit bigger than a bent metal bridge that makes it look odd.

99p start price though.

Edited September 23, 2010 by Annoying Twit

[Bassassin]

[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='966146' date='Sep 23 2010, 09:36 PM']Is it just me, or is there something fundamentally odd about this Maya.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-MAYA-P-BASS-70s-BADASS-BRIDGE-SCHALLERS-MIJ-/330476397258?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4cf1eda2ca"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-MAYA-P-BASS-...=item4cf1eda2ca[/url]

The bridge seems a bit close to the end of the body. And the shape seems slightly off. Might be the angle of the photo, I dunno.

Edit: After going through the photos, I think it's just the badass bridge being a bit bigger than a bent metal bridge that makes it look odd.

99p start price though.[/quote]
Why on earth would someone stick a BAIII on a bit of crumbly plywood guff like that?

And he's totally, utterly and absolutely lying about the "Lipstick Dano" (what?) pickup.

99p yes, undisclosed reserve - anyone's guess.

J.

[Happy Jack]

Ah yes, that famous old brand Gibson Shaftesbury ...

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/gibson-shaftesbury-ripper-bass-fitted-case-/120625495225?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c15d6fcb9"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/gibson-shaftesbury-r...=item1c15d6fcb9[/url]

[Annoying Twit]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='966921' date='Sep 24 2010, 05:00 PM']Ah yes, that famous old brand Gibson Shaftesbury ...

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/gibson-shaftesbury-ripper-bass-fitted-case-/120625495225?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c15d6fcb9"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/gibson-shaftesbury-r...=item1c15d6fcb9[/url]

[/quote]

[quote]japan made in the 70's has fixed in neck [b]needs tuners replaced as one is broken[/b] , the neck is straight but [b]could do with a fret dressing maybe refret[/b] !
[b]the bridge was bent so has replacment fitted[/b] have kept all original parts in case has some chips on body head stock and neck will add more pix soon
comes in fitted original case, [b]pickups still work but wiring is faulty[/b][/quote]

Is this really worth £200?

[Ou7shined]

[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='967018' date='Sep 24 2010, 06:38 PM']Is this really worth £200?[/quote]
Someone thought it was.

[Annoying Twit]

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='967081' date='Sep 24 2010, 07:50 PM']Someone thought it was. [/quote]

Did someone actually think it's a Gibson?

[spinynorman]

Grab a Grabber

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120625502450&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT[/url]

[spinynorman]

This is seriously expensive and you can try it out in Finland. It's not really worth that, is it?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-Pro-II-Bass-SB-1000-79-/260668553949?pt=Guitar&hash=item3cb10e7add"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-Pro-II-Bass-SB-...=item3cb10e7add[/url]

Edited September 25, 2010 by spinynorman

[noelk27]

[quote name='spinynorman' post='967878' date='Sep 25 2010, 06:49 PM']This is seriously expensive and you can try it out in Finland. It's not really worth that, is it?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-Pro-II-Bass-SB-1000-79-/260668553949?pt=Guitar&hash=item3cb10e7add"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-Pro-II-Bass-SB-...=item3cb10e7add[/url][/quote]

What it's worth and what it'll sell for are two different things. But, no, it'll not sell for that price. Half that price, sure.

Not this particular listing, but seriously don't get why people insist on listing these APIIs as being rare, after the original design was amended in '78 production was relatively high. Selling a factory spec first-run SB1000 or SB800 and then stating rare could be justified.

[Annoying Twit]

[quote name='noelk27' post='968028' date='Sep 25 2010, 10:38 PM']What it's worth and what it'll sell for are two different things. But, no, it'll not sell for that price. Half that price, sure.

Not this particular listing, but seriously don't get why people insist on listing these APIIs as being rare, after the original design was amended in '78 production was relatively high. Selling a factory spec first-run SB1000 or SB800 and then stating rare could be justified.[/quote]

It's not as bad as all the "Super Rare" Westone Thunder 1 and 1As though. Sometimes you'll get ten of them on ebay at once, about half of them claimed to be "rare".

[Bassassin]

[quote name='noelk27' post='968028' date='Sep 25 2010, 10:38 PM']What it's worth and what it'll sell for are two different things.[/quote]
Surely any secondhand instrument, rare or otherwise, is worth [i]precisely[/i] what a buyer will pay for it!

J.

[tino]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='968536' date='Sep 26 2010, 04:46 PM']Surely any secondhand instrument, rare or otherwise, is worth [i]precisely[/i] what a buyer will pay for it!

J.[/quote]
Jon....... any idea on this ebay item 270635291014,Im computer illiterate so cant do the link bit....my daughter fancies it though..
Cheers T

[noelk27]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='968536' date='Sep 26 2010, 04:46 PM']Surely any secondhand instrument, rare or otherwise, is worth [i]precisely[/i] what a buyer will pay for it![/quote]

If you're defining worth purely in monetary terms, sure. But the worth of early SB designs, to my mind, is more intrinsical than financial, hence the distinction.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='noelk27' post='968615' date='Sep 26 2010, 05:54 PM']If you're defining worth purely in monetary terms, sure. But the worth of early SB designs, to my mind, is more intrinsical than financial, hence the distinction.[/quote]
Of course - I understand completely & concur. Realistically this is the basis of my obsession with vintage MIJ basses & guitars.

J.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='tino' post='968540' date='Sep 26 2010, 04:49 PM']Jon....... any idea on this ebay item 270635291014,Im computer illiterate so cant do the link bit....my daughter fancies it though..
Cheers T[/quote]
Here's the link:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270635291014"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=270635291014[/url]

Looks nice, obviously depending on condition. I think it's a Fujigen J copy, fairly early 70s going on the tuners, pickups & trc. It's had a headstock pin badge, which from the outline I'm fairly sure was Eros (compare it to the one on [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=31025502980"]this rather nice EB-3 copy[/url]), which would support the age & the Fujigen theory. Early Eros guitars were sourced form Fujigen & Matsumoku - I had a Fujigen Tele & Mat LP, and the EB-3 is a Mat.

I think if you can get it for around the £100 mark it would be something of a bargain, assuming everything's OK.

J.

[tino]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='968661' date='Sep 26 2010, 06:24 PM']Here's the link:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270635291014"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=270635291014[/url]

Looks nice, obviously depending on condition. I think it's a Fujigen J copy, fairly early 70s going on the tuners, pickups & trc. It's had a headstock pin badge, which from the outline I'm fairly sure was Eros (compare it to the one on [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=31025502980"]this rather nice EB-3 copy[/url]), which would support the age & the Fujigen theory. Early Eros guitars were sourced form Fujigen & Matsumoku - I had a Fujigen Tele & Mat LP, and the EB-3 is a Mat.

I think if you can get it for around the £100 mark it would be something of a bargain, assuming everything's OK.

J.[/quote]
Cheers....left my bid so its wait and see

[tino]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='968661' date='Sep 26 2010, 06:24 PM']Here's the link:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270635291014"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=270635291014[/url]

Looks nice, obviously depending on condition. I think it's a Fujigen J copy, fairly early 70s going on the tuners, pickups & trc. It's had a headstock pin badge, which from the outline I'm fairly sure was Eros (compare it to the one on [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=31025502980"]this rather nice EB-3 copy[/url]), which would support the age & the Fujigen theory. Early Eros guitars were sourced form Fujigen & Matsumoku - I had a Fujigen Tele & Mat LP, and the EB-3 is a Mat.

I think if you can get it for around the £100 mark it would be something of a bargain, assuming everything's OK.

J.[/quote]
Lets hope that was £107 well spent then ....the pups look ropey....wonder what will end up in there???
She said """ Can it be done up in pink flock" to match her jukebox...lol

[Mykesbass]

[quote name='tino' post='968854' date='Sep 26 2010, 09:30 PM']She said """ Can it be done up in pink flock" to match her jukebox...lol[/quote]

Sounds like a job for WaynePD!

[Bassassin]

[quote name='tino' post='968854' date='Sep 26 2010, 09:30 PM']Lets hope that was £107 well spent then ....the pups look ropey....wonder what will end up in there???
She said """ Can it be done up in pink flock" to match her jukebox...lol[/quote]
Good stuff!

These pups - the square single-coil things with 2 rows of pole pieces like in your Rickenfaker - can be a mixed bag, so wait & see. You might get a pair of the 11k ones like in my Faker.

J.

[Annoying Twit]

SB1000 in case. Looks very nice. If I win it for my ridiculous lowball bid, you can bet I'll travel to where-ever it is in Lincolnshire to pick it up biggrin.gif

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=140459010053"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=140459010053[/url]