Vintage MIJ (formerly J@pCr@p) Spotting

[Dave Vader]

[quote name='megallica' timestamp='1364133248' post='2022216']
I've never seen this shape of headstock on an Ibanez Roadstar - is it a transitional model from Roadstar to Soundgear?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Ibanez-Roadstar-II-Series-Bass-Guitar-with-Hard-Case-/121085450025?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c31415729"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c31415729[/url]
[/quote]

Nah, there were loads like that in the mid-80s. There are as many shapes of roadstar as you can dream up.

[megallica]

[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1364139126' post='2022333']
Nah, there were loads like that in the mid-80s. There are as many shapes of roadstar as you can dream up.
[/quote]

I have some pretty crazy dreams - seriously I've been looking through the old online Ibanez catalogues and cant see this headstock shape anywhere.
The ebay seller doesn't know which model it is either unfortunately.

[chaypup]

MASSIVE bargain here! Get in quick for a Westone Quantum for £80!!! [url="http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/westone-quantum-headless-bass-guitar/1013478625"]http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/westone-quantum-headless-bass-guitar/1013478625[/url]

[alyctes]

[quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1364381041' post='2025575']
MASSIVE bargain here! Get in quick for a Westone Quantum for £80!!! [url="http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/westone-quantum-headless-bass-guitar/1013478625"]http://www.gumtree.c...itar/1013478625[/url]
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Ad's gone... ah well.

[chaypup]

Shame this Hondo is in the states - it's gorgeous!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1980s-Hondo-Deluxe-Series-830-Woody-Color-P-Bass-Guitar-Great-Starter-/300884807707?pt=Guitar&hash=item460e21d01b

[Mr. Foxen]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Jarock-Bass-guitar-Red-Sparkle-Made-in-Japan-Ibanez-/310649937583?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item48542ddeaf

[Clarky72]

just seen this little freak on the bay....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARIA-PRO-II-SUPER-TWIN-DOUBLENECK-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/121105754713?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c32772a59

[pete.young]

I'm very interested in this and will probably bid - I've been looking for something similar for a while. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330924342226?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Does anyone know what is going on with the strange extra pickup?

[FlatEric]

Anyone in the USA?

Buy this.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161025868881?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161025868881?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649[/url]

Would love to get this myself - Go on, treat yourself.

Cheers.

[chaypup]

Westone Superheadless - doesn't look like a refin but I've never seen this colour before!
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Super-Headless-Bass-/321127543663?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4ac4b1736f"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4ac4b1736f[/url]

Edited May 20, 2013 by chaypup

[BetaFunk]

Worth a punt if you're near Bexleyheath


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-60-70sCMI-BASS-GUITAR-/370813514672?clk_rvr_id=481965891467&vectorid=229508

[solo4652]

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1369136140' post='2085188']
Worth a punt if you're near Bexleyheath


[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-60-70sCMI-BASS-GUITAR-/370813514672?clk_rvr_id=481965891467&vectorid=229508"]http://www.ebay.co.u...vectorid=229508[/url]
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Maybe it's my old eyes but, in photo 1, are the strings and the neck running parrallel? Track the E string along the neck, with reference to the neck edge.

[tauzero]

[quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1369149933' post='2085485']
Maybe it's my old eyes but, in photo 1, are the strings and the neck running parrallel? Track the E string along the neck, with reference to the neck edge.
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Going by the third photo, not only does the E string get to the edge of the fretboard but also the G string seems to be closer to the edge than advisable. Could it be a replacement bridge with too-wide string spacing? One BBOT looks much the same as another.

[BetaFunk]

[quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1369149933' post='2085485']
Maybe it's my old eyes but, in photo 1, are the strings and the neck running parrallel? Track the E string along the neck, with reference to the neck edge.
[/quote]
[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1369165190' post='2085758']
Going by the third photo, not only does the E string get to the edge of the fretboard but also the G string seems to be closer to the edge than advisable. Could it be a replacement bridge with too-wide string spacing? One BBOT looks much the same as another.
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I'd still give it a spin for £80 if it was nearer to me.

[pete.young]

Definitely not crap - could be an absolute bargain. Anyone here fancy it?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251276988512?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649[/url]

Edited May 22, 2013 by pete.young

[Bloodaxe]

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1369241822' post='2086813']
Definitely not crap - could be an absolute bargain. Anyone here fancy it?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251276988512?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649[/url]
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I'm watching it, but only out of idle curiosity to see where it ends up.

Also in my watch list is this little beauty:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300906501228?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Again, I've no intention of bidding, just curious to see how close the seller gets to their ludicrously inflated (IMO) BIN price.

P.

[pete.young]

[quote name='Bloodaxe' timestamp='1369250614' post='2086970']
I'm watching it, but only out of idle curiosity to see where it ends up.

Also in my watch list is this little beauty:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300906501228?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1438.l2649[/url]

Again, I've no intention of bidding, just curious to see how close the seller gets to their ludicrously inflated (IMO) BIN price.

P.
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I think that's a good definition of optimism!

[megallica]

Aren't the reissues in that price range though?
Not saying I'd pay that amount for this but I can almost see the sellers logic.

[Bloodaxe]

[quote name='megallica' timestamp='1369311976' post='2087600']
Aren't the reissues in that price range though?
Not saying I'd pay that amount for this but I can almost see the sellers logic.[/quote]

They are indeed, & I get where he's coming from too. However that approach seems to have skewed the market somewhat as sellers are now asking very high prices but rarely, if ever, getting them. I can't see [i]any[/i] SB being worth four figures unless it's got celebrity provenance (& even that market is arguably restricted to Burton, Taylor & maybe Sarzo).

I vaguely recall being told that the re-sale value of a new Les Paul was 50% of retail once it left the shop. I daresay that's a fairly good yardstick for any mass-produced instrument.

This guy's got the right idea:—

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-SB1000-CB-Cliff-Burton-Metallica-bass-Guitar-High-Gloss-Black-/121113147387?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c32e7f7fb"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c32e7f7fb[/url]

It'll be interesting to see where that lands.

This one [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARIA-SB-1000-ARIA-PRO-2-BASS-GUITAR-CLIFF-BURTON-VINTAGE-FRETLESS-/221228975153?pt=Guitar&hash=item3382464431"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3382464431[/url] is, I reckon, at the true top end of the pricing/value of these. Although with it being a fretless, the market is further reduced, so it too is probably a bit on the high side.

P.

[Musky]

I noticed the other day that there had been a number of massive old Aria bargains recently. I guess that if you're in the market for one now is the time to buy.

[Bloodaxe]

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1369380826' post='2088468']
I noticed the other day that there had been a number of massive old Aria bargains recently. I guess that if you're in the market for one now is the time to buy.[/quote]

Which begs the question 'Why are these still for sale?'

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/159632-aria-pro-ii-sb700-1980-factory-fretless-oak-stain-l325/page__p__2075044__fromsearch__1#entry2075044"]http://basschat.co.u..._1#entry2075044[/url]

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/159514-aria-pro-ii-sb600-1985-blacknatural-l225/page__st__20__p__2075043__fromsearch__1#entry2075043"]http://basschat.co.u..._1#entry2075043[/url]

£225 for an SB-600? That's a bargain & £325 for a fretless 700 is better than very reasonable, yet they've been up since November 2011!
Daft, I call it.

P.

Edited May 24, 2013 by Bloodaxe

[pete.young]

Well, the Pro II RSB Special and the Tempo Les Paul bass both fetched around £200, so maybe the market is picking up? I'd have valued them both around £150 in the current climate.

[Bloodaxe]

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1369472183' post='2089523']Well, the Pro II RSB Special and the Tempo Les Paul bass both fetched around £200, so maybe the market is picking up? I'd have valued them both around £150 in the current climate.[/quote]

I'd agree with you, but that said 200 sovs for an RSB Special isn't outrageous - it's still a lot of bass for the money. This [url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Pro-II-RSB-Straycat-Bass-1986-87-Made-in-Japan-/251282248697?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a8196d3f9]RSB Straycat[/url] looks a bit of alright - it'll be interesting to see what it does.

In other news…

The [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300906501228?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649"]SB-1000 with a BIN of £1350[/url] got bids up to £530 - but that was still below the seller's reserve. Now there's a surprise… not.

The [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221228975153?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649"]'Cliff Burton Fretless'[/url] got pulled "because there was an error in the listing" whatever that means. Couldn't see anything wrong in the listing apart from the spurious CB claim… and it's since been [url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARIA-SB-1000-ARIA-PRO-2-BASS-GUITAR-CLIFF-BURTON-VINTAGE-FRETLESS-/221232916294?pt=Guitar&hash=item3382826746]relisted[/url].

& the [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121113147387?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649"]Korean SB-1000CB[/url] topped out at £451 from a £350 start.

P.

Edited June 1, 2013 by Bloodaxe

[Bloodaxe]

Bit of 70s kitsch with no reserve: [url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Diamond-Semi-Acoustic-Bass-Guitar-Short-Scale-Japan-70s-Hollowbody-Vintage-/230990665233?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35c81dd611]Aria Diamond Semi-Acoustic[/url]

[Bloodaxe]

[url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATSUMOKU-ARIA-PRO-SB-900-BASS-GUITAR-/271217761438?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3f25d69c9e]1980 Batwing SB-900[/url]

Starting price is nice, but depends what reserve the seller's put on it. Shame about the knob though.