Vintage MIJ (formerly J@pCr@p) Spotting

[Annoying Twit]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Charvel-P-bass-CX492-made-in-japan-circa-91-/130980715706?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1e7f0f1cba"]Japanese Charvel P-Bass[/url]

Edited September 1, 2013 by Annoying Twit

[Annoying Twit]

This is an interesting looking instrument. I certainly don't feel tempted to buy it as due to its age, it's not from the classic Japanese instruments era (I would guess) and there appear to be structural problems. But it's the kind of thing that interesting to see.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Japan-MIJ-Shortscale-Archtop-Hollowbody-Twin-Pickup-Bass-1960s-70s-Electra-/300960007573?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item46129d4595"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item46129d4595[/url]

Edit: The listing says that it's in good physical state. Does [url=http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=1613056&image=696115187&images=696115277,696113712,696113835,696114981,696115019,696113988,696113960,696114105,696115246,696115156,696115058,696115223,696115187,696115094,696114355,696115312,696114067,696114142,696114280,696114186,696113906,696113794&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0]this photo[/url] not show a physical split?

Edited September 5, 2013 by Annoying Twit

[allighatt0r]

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1378077208' post='2195658']
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Charvel-P-bass-CX492-made-in-japan-circa-91-/130980715706?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1e7f0f1cba"]Japanese Charvel P-Bass[/url]
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Is the D string tuner meant to be like that?!

[Annoying Twit]

[quote name='allighatt0r' timestamp='1378389411' post='2199548']
Is the D string tuner meant to be like that?!
[/quote]

I'd guess not:

[Annoying Twit]

This claims to be a Japanese p-bass. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-japanese-electric-p-bass-guitar-ibanez-satellite-1970s-/121173014919?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c36797987"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c36797987[/url] "For parts or not working", but £70 + p&p. No name on headstock, but it might be an Ibanez it says. Or of course, it might not be.

Edited September 8, 2013 by Annoying Twit

[Annoying Twit]

Cheap Westone Thunder 1. However, it 'has no frets' and some 'cosmetic damage'. So, this may not be a bargain despite the cheap price.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-I-Bass-Guitar-including-Gig-Bag-Kit-/171125754274?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27d7e3c9a2

[Annoying Twit]

Sakai bass. Literally JapCrap again? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bass-Guitar-And-Amp-/161107005537?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2582b9d061

[Annoying Twit]

WARNING: NOT A BASS!!!!

But surely £150 for a MIJ N-Series Squier strat wtih a case. Isn't this a bargain for someone? Barwell is inconvenient for me to get to, and I'm not well this weekend. If it was close I'd go and have a look. Bargain for someone? http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/fender-sqiuier-stratocaster-n-series-japan-black-with-hard-fender-case/1032079234

[ead]

I have a weird desire to acquire this bass [b]NOT[/b] because of it's alleged provenance, just 'cause it looks like a bit of fun to do up. Any thoughts from the experts on the Antorianess and potential of it please?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antoria-Bass-Guitar-Ibanez-Import-/121176170090?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c36a99e6a"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antoria-Bass-Guitar-Ibanez-Import-/121176170090?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c36a99e6a[/url]

[Annoying Twit]

The headstock looks odd. I don't know what age of Antoria that came from, but I searched on Antoria basses, and couldn't find anything with a headstock that looks like that. The ebay listing says it's an 'Ibanez', but is it really?

(As an aside, the modern Antoria brand owner has an IMHO [url="http://antoriaguitars.com/"]quite nice website[/url] but the instruments look to be the same copies that a lot of brands sell).

Edited September 17, 2013 by Annoying Twit

[bagsieblue]

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1379444444' post='2212860']
I have a weird desire to acquire this bass [b]NOT[/b] because of it's alleged provenance, just 'cause it looks like a bit of fun to do up. Any thoughts from the experts on the Antorianess and potential of it please?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antoria-Bass-Guitar-Ibanez-Import-/121176170090?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c36a99e6a"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c36a99e6a[/url]
[/quote]

Ha, I'm watching this as well Mr EAD, just around the corner from us as well.
Let me know if you are going to bid so we are not bidding against each other?

[Dave Vader]

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1379444444' post='2212860']
I have a weird desire to acquire this bass [b]NOT[/b] because of it's alleged provenance, just 'cause it looks like a bit of fun to do up. Any thoughts from the experts on the Antorianess and potential of it please?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antoria-Bass-Guitar-Ibanez-Import-/121176170090?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c36a99e6a"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c36a99e6a[/url]
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A mate of mine has an antoria telecaster with that headstock, it is utterly lovely.

[noelk27]

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1379445981' post='2212878']The headstock looks odd. I don't know what age of Antoria that came from, but I searched on Antoria basses, and couldn't find anything with a headstock that looks like that. The ebay listing says it's an 'Ibanez', but is it really?[/quote]
It's an 80s model. Other than that some Antoria models were built by FujiGen, it's got f*ck all connection with Hoshino.

[pete.young]

Not sure what this is, maybe Yamato/National ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bass-Guitar-/290983559659?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item43bff8c1eb

My LP-shaped GAS is now firmly in check, so I'm not going to bid.

[bluejail]

Hi
Yesterday i started new topic ' Made in Japan' badged jazz bass copy in order to identify a jazz bass copy
I bought recently from a pawnshop.
Then i came across this topic which I think is the right place to put a link with pics in.
If anybody knows what is it pls let me know

Cheers

http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/bluejail/slideshow/Made%20in%20Japan%20jazz%20bass%20copy

[Musky]

My guess is that it's a Matsumoku made bass. The three piece quarter sawn neck was a characteristic of Mat instruments, and it's very similar to the Aria 1540 which was made by Mat. The thing that's throwing me off is the neckplate - Matsumoku usually put 'Steel Reinforced Neck' or 'Steel Adjustable Neck' on their early 70's basses, though perhaps someone will know if they used Made in Japan stamps at any point? Noelk27 on these boards is well up on old Arias.

Realistically though, you'll never know the brand of this bass without the name on the headstock. Many factories produced identical instruments and badged them up with whatever name the importer requested, which means the closest you'll get is an ID on the manufacturer.

Fantastic condition bass for it's age though.

[gjones]

[quote name='bluejail' timestamp='1380353998' post='2224084']
Hi
Yesterday i started new topic ' Made in Japan' badged jazz bass copy in order to identify a jazz bass copy
I bought recently from a pawnshop.
Then i came across this topic which I think is the right place to put a link with pics in.
If anybody knows what is it pls let me know

Cheers

[url="http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/bluejail/slideshow/Made%20in%20Japan%20jazz%20bass%20copy"]http://s1249.photobu...z%20bass%20copy[/url]
[/quote]

Looks like it may be a Grant. They were imported by a music shop in Edinburgh, called Grants, from Japan back in the late 70's early 80's. Here's some photos of one for sale on preloved. [url="http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/106296829/grant-jazz-bass-1970s-made-in-japan.html"]http://www.preloved....e-in-japan.html[/url]

And another on ebay [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAZZ-BASS-70S-VINTAGE-JAPANESE-GUITAR-MIJ-IBANEZ-CONNECTION-/321141111246?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4ac58079ce&nma=true&si=%252B5xUEv2TR8r6L8O%252FdyWWX1hTRLM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAZZ-BASS-70S-VINTAGE-JAPANESE-GUITAR-MIJ-IBANEZ-CONNECTION-/321141111246?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4ac58079ce&nma=true&si=%252B5xUEv2TR8r6L8O%252FdyWWX1hTRLM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url]

Edited September 28, 2013 by gjones

[Nibody]

[quote name='bluejail' timestamp='1380353998' post='2224084']
Hi
Yesterday i started new topic ' Made in Japan' badged jazz bass copy in order to identify a jazz bass copy
I bought recently from a pawnshop.
Then i came across this topic which I think is the right place to put a link with pics in.
If anybody knows what is it pls let me know

Cheers

[url="http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/bluejail/slideshow/Made%20in%20Japan%20jazz%20bass%20copy"]http://s1249.photobu...z%20bass%20copy[/url]
[/quote]

Tuners are the same as a Maya but the Maya headstocks are more fendery

[Annoying Twit]

Not 100% sure if this is Japanese or Korean. But if it's Japanese, that looks to be a good price.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/aria-pro-2-bass-guitar-/131020930771?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1e8174bed3"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1e8174bed3[/url]

Edit: Cardinal Series Bass, should be MIJ @ Matsumoku I believe. Is Flat Eric around, he has (or has had) some and will be able to recognise the model and be able to comment on the price.

Edited October 16, 2013 by Annoying Twit

[Musky]

Good spot - it's a CSB380. He's included his phone number, so may be angling for an off ebay sale should anybody be within easy reach of Inverness.

[Donnyboy]

Ended sold for [\£130

[chaypup]

oooo check out the pickups on this!
Not sure about the description of a "generally straight neck" though...

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Used-Very-Rare-GRECO-MTB65-1980s-Electric-BASS-Guitar-4String-Japan-Made-/161133896357?pt=Guitar&hash=item25845422a5"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Used-Very-Rare-GRECO-MTB65-1980s-Electric-BASS-Guitar-4String-Japan-Made-/161133896357?pt=Guitar&hash=item25845422a5[/url]

[Annoying Twit]

Claimed to be a defretted Japanese p-bass.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fretless-Japanese-P-Bass-/321236874973?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4acb35b6dd

[Bassassin]

[quote name='bluejail' timestamp='1380353998' post='2224084']
Hi
Yesterday i started new topic ' Made in Japan' badged jazz bass copy in order to identify a jazz bass copy
I bought recently from a pawnshop.
Then i came across this topic which I think is the right place to put a link with pics in.
If anybody knows what is it pls let me know

Cheers

[url="http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/bluejail/slideshow/Made%20in%20Japan%20jazz%20bass%20copy"]http://s1249.photobu...z%20bass%20copy[/url]
[/quote]
Musky - don't think it's a Mat - the body's ply and all the Mat J copies I can remember had veneered butcher-block or solid timber bodies. Apart from the 3-piece neck it's completely identical to the Columbus-brand J copies from the mid-70s (I've had several!) so I'd be inclined to think it came from the same factory as those. Regarding that neck, many of the "good" Japanese factories used this method, including Kasuga & Fujigen. Anecdotally bodies & necks often came from different manufacturers so I'd be inclined to think that might be the case with this one.

To the OP - unfortunately "Made in Japan copy" is as accurate as it's possible to be with many unbranded basses - pretty much all of the brand names from that era were importer/exporter names & nothing to do with the factories that made them, so unless it's possible to work out which specific factory made the instrument, the best you can say is "70s MIJ Jazz copy".

[Annoying Twit]

Welcome back Bassassin! In this forum, you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark.